OakWood Posted November 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Was that referring to Paul's time, is it generally for all time or is it specifically as we approach the End Times? I believe that I can see many examples of it now. In context: 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Teditis Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It seems to me that verses 6-9 put the context into the times that the "mystery of lawlessness" will be revealed... in the future, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted November 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 It seems to me that verses 6-9 put the context into the times that the "mystery of lawlessness" will be revealed... in the future, I think? Are we seeing this already though in some individual cases, but in the future it will be on a much bigger scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 19, 2014 I would say we are. His time is drawing near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 8, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 40 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 8, 2014 It was very near to Paul's time and continuing from there and is still taking place today. The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries were terrible times for the Christian religion. Heavy persecution mixed with infiltration of pagan doctrines, followed by Rome taking over the religion and mixing it with it's ideas. The truth was slowly disregarded and men's lies became a part of the religion. Many false doctrines became normal and still serve as a foundational doctrines of today. Most are still living those lies, until the Messiah shall correct them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted December 9, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2014 It is my understanding doctrinally that when the paul uses the word end times, he is refering to the entire stretch of time from pentecost to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 9, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted December 9, 2014 It seems to me that verses 6-9 put the context into the times that the "mystery of lawlessness" will be revealed... in the future, I think? Are we seeing this already though in some individual cases, but in the future it will be on a much bigger scale? I don't think we can comprehend until he who is restraining is taken out of the way. I do think that the scripture that tells us that things we be as they were in the days of Noah are speaking of more than eating and drinking and giving in marriage. I think the world spiritual situation will be the same. Satan and at least 30 million fallen angels will be around from being kicked out of the heavens.... that's got to be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted December 10, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2014 Was that referring to Paul's time, is it generally for all time or is it specifically as we approach the End Times? I believe that I can see many examples of it now. In context: 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJV) The antichrist.Who will be revealed in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 11, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 11, 2014 Was that referring to Paul's time, is it generally for all time or is it specifically as we approach the End Times? I believe that I can see many examples of it now. In context: 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJV) Those 10-12 verses go with the subject of the 2 Thess.2:3-9 verses, which is about the falling away to worship the coming Antichrist that is to sit in the temple playing God. That... is the "strong delusion" Paul was talking about. That event is specifically for the "great tribulation" timing Jesus forewarned of in Matthew 24 and Mark 13, and it involves the placing of the "abomination of desolation" idol in Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildstar Posted December 13, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 218 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2014 Was that referring to Paul's time, is it generally for all time or is it specifically as we approach the End Times? I believe that I can see many examples of it now. In context: 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJV) It refers to now of course! Anyone who doesn't receive gods love this happens to. Jesus blotted out the worlds sin, but how many people actually believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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