Adams fault??

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would say they were both equally at fault. they chose to sin. Makes one wonder if one hadn't eaten while the other had, what would happen.

The are equally at fault, but not equally to blame for the fall.  Adam is solely to blame in the Bible.  Adam as her husband and head, could have interceded for Eve, mostly likely and Eve would have been forgiven. 

 

where is that biblically

 

Which part? 

 

about adam being blamed.

Roman 5:12-21.  Adam is the ONLY one blamed for the fall of man anywhere in Scripture.   I Tim. 2:13-14 states that when Eve ate of the fruit, she was deceived, but Adam committed that sin with both eyes open.  He knew he was being disobedient.    Also see I Cor. 15:21-22

 

Nowhere in the New Testament where the Fall is mentioned is Eve blamed for it.  Adam is singularly blamed.

 

As for the part about Adam interceding for her, I didn't say that Bible said that.  I only mentioned it as something that could have have happened if Adam had not eaten himself.

 

with Eve knowing the difference between good and evil and Adam not knowing, it would have made for a weird relationship.

 

It wasn't that Eve didn't know good from evil.  That's not how she was deceived.  Eve was deceived by the Devil into disbelieving what God said.

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

Gen 3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

After reading V3 Im sure she knew; evedently she was told and she was not in the dark on this.

 

But Paul says she was deceived.  So the question is, in what way was she deceived?

 

He may have eaten it in front of her once and he did not die so she may have been convinced she would not either, a guess.

It could be somehow he knew it would not affect him as it would them. another possibiliy he may have eaten  fifty times in front of her before she tried it.

 

No, if He had eaten of it first man would have fallen.  Where do get the idea that he might have eaten first?   Sorry, but nothing in what you said jives with the Bible.

 

As I stated; I was guessing unwritten answers to Your question as to how she was deceived. When you ask "how was she deceived"  You must have known the Bible does not say how; so anyone trying to answer your question, like me, is simply guessing as to how.

I do not see where in the Bible the serpent was included in the "don't eat of this tree" law of God. It is also possible that she knew animals did not talk to her and Adam so the serpent must not looked like and animal in form.

So imo it is possible ( not fact ) the serpent ate first to deceive her into thinking it would not kill him so she could have thought it won't kill her either.

Its a guess on my part.

It is also possible he ate more than once to convince her. I realize it not written in the Bible but it seems possible.

I understand and Im thinking you also understand the answer to Your Question is Not in the Bible. Therefore you can not expect scripture when you ask what you have.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

 

Gen 3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

After reading V3 Im sure she knew; evedently she was told and she was not in the dark on this.

 

But Paul says she was deceived.  So the question is, in what way was she deceived?

 

He may have eaten it in front of her once and he did not die so she may have been convinced she would not either, a guess.

It could be somehow he knew it would not affect him as it would them. another possibiliy he may have eaten  fifty times in front of her before she tried it.

 

No, if He had eaten of it first man would have fallen.  Where do get the idea that he might have eaten first?   Sorry, but nothing in what you said jives with the Bible.

 

As I stated; I was guessing unwritten answers to Your question as to how she was deceived. When you ask "how was she deceived"  You must have known the Bible does not say how; so anyone trying to answer your question, like me, is simply guessing as to how.

We don't have to guess how she was deceived.  The Bible tells us how she was deceived.  All you need to do is read it.  The devil decieved Eve into believing that what God said wasn't true.

 

I understand and Im thinking you also understand the answer to Your Question is Not in the Bible. Therefore you can not expect scripture when you ask what you have.

 

No, the answer IS in the Bible.  Sorry, but it is right there in front of you, if you read it.

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I would say they were both equally at fault. they chose to sin. Makes one wonder if one hadn't eaten while the other had, what would happen.

The are equally at fault, but not equally to blame for the fall.  Adam is solely to blame in the Bible.  Adam as her husband and head, could have interceded for Eve, mostly likely and Eve would have been forgiven. 

 

where is that biblically

 

Which part? 

 

about adam being blamed.

Roman 5:12-21.  Adam is the ONLY one blamed for the fall of man anywhere in Scripture.   I Tim. 2:13-14 states that when Eve ate of the fruit, she was deceived, but Adam committed that sin with both eyes open.  He knew he was being disobedient.    Also see I Cor. 15:21-22

 

Nowhere in the New Testament where the Fall is mentioned is Eve blamed for it.  Adam is singularly blamed.

 

As for the part about Adam interceding for her, I didn't say that Bible said that.  I only mentioned it as something that could have have happened if Adam had not eaten himself.

 

with Eve knowing the difference between good and evil and Adam not knowing, it would have made for a weird relationship.

 

It wasn't that Eve didn't know good from evil.  That's not how she was deceived.  Eve was deceived by the Devil into disbelieving what God said.

 

and without the concept of good and evil, that's not such a difficult thing to do.....

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would say they were both equally at fault. they chose to sin. Makes one wonder if one hadn't eaten while the other had, what would happen.

The are equally at fault, but not equally to blame for the fall.  Adam is solely to blame in the Bible.  Adam as her husband and head, could have interceded for Eve, mostly likely and Eve would have been forgiven. 

 

where is that biblically

 

Which part? 

 

about adam being blamed.

Roman 5:12-21.  Adam is the ONLY one blamed for the fall of man anywhere in Scripture.   I Tim. 2:13-14 states that when Eve ate of the fruit, she was deceived, but Adam committed that sin with both eyes open.  He knew he was being disobedient.    Also see I Cor. 15:21-22

 

Nowhere in the New Testament where the Fall is mentioned is Eve blamed for it.  Adam is singularly blamed.

 

As for the part about Adam interceding for her, I didn't say that Bible said that.  I only mentioned it as something that could have have happened if Adam had not eaten himself.

 

with Eve knowing the difference between good and evil and Adam not knowing, it would have made for a weird relationship.

 

It wasn't that Eve didn't know good from evil.  That's not how she was deceived.  Eve was deceived by the Devil into disbelieving what God said.

 

and without the concept of good and evil, that's not such a difficult thing to do.....

 

 

But Eve wasn't be deceived in to thinking that what she was doing wasn't evil.   She was deceived into thinking that God's promise about death resulting from eating the fruit wasn't true.   Eve was deceived into thinking that she would become like God knowing all things (good and evil). Essentially the devil was telling her that she would become a god, herself, knowing everything that God knows.

 

It was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  it was the knowledge of good from evil.  It wasn't about knowing the difference. "Good and evil" relative to the tree pertained to knowing all things good and evil.   It is called a "merism"   It is a figure of speech that communicates totality in terms of polarity.   It's like if you say, "I searched  high and low for this or that."    The knowledge of good and evil means essentially, the knowledge of everything.   Not that they would become omniscient, but their knowledge of world would increase.

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gen 3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

After reading V3 Im sure she knew; evedently she was told and she was not in the dark on this.

 

But Paul says she was deceived.  So the question is, in what way was she deceived?

 

He may have eaten it in front of her once and he did not die so she may have been convinced she would not either, a guess.

It could be somehow he knew it would not affect him as it would them. another possibiliy he may have eaten  fifty times in front of her before she tried it.

 

No, if He had eaten of it first man would have fallen.  Where do get the idea that he might have eaten first?   Sorry, but nothing in what you said jives with the Bible.

 

As I stated; I was guessing unwritten answers to Your question as to how she was deceived. When you ask "how was she deceived"  You must have known the Bible does not say how; so anyone trying to answer your question, like me, is simply guessing as to how.

We don't have to guess how she was deceived.  The Bible tells us how she was deceived.  All you need to do is read it.  The devil decieved Eve into believing that what God said wasn't true.

 

I understand and Im thinking you also understand the answer to Your Question is Not in the Bible. Therefore you can not expect scripture when you ask what you have.

 

No, the answer IS in the Bible.  Sorry, but it is right there in front of you, if you read it.

 

you are saying  " what the devil did Not how he did it your Q was How not what.

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But We Have No Idea What YOU Think About Adam And Eve

 

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Nor Can We Discern What Scripture YOU Maybe Applying

 

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11

 

After All, If We Wanted To Discuss A Girl's Thoughts

 

But as for you, speak the things which are fitting for sound doctrine. Titus 2:1 (NASB)

 

We Would Talk Directly To Her

 

A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies. Proverbs 14:25

 

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[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gen 3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

After reading V3 Im sure she knew; evedently she was told and she was not in the dark on this.

 

But Paul says she was deceived.  So the question is, in what way was she deceived?

 

He may have eaten it in front of her once and he did not die so she may have been convinced she would not either, a guess.

It could be somehow he knew it would not affect him as it would them. another possibiliy he may have eaten  fifty times in front of her before she tried it.

 

No, if He had eaten of it first man would have fallen.  Where do get the idea that he might have eaten first?   Sorry, but nothing in what you said jives with the Bible.

 

As I stated; I was guessing unwritten answers to Your question as to how she was deceived. When you ask "how was she deceived"  You must have known the Bible does not say how; so anyone trying to answer your question, like me, is simply guessing as to how.

We don't have to guess how she was deceived.  The Bible tells us how she was deceived.  All you need to do is read it.  The devil decieved Eve into believing that what God said wasn't true.

 

I understand and Im thinking you also understand the answer to Your Question is Not in the Bible. Therefore you can not expect scripture when you ask what you have.

 

No, the answer IS in the Bible.  Sorry, but it is right there in front of you, if you read it.

 

you are saying  " what the devil did Not how he did it your Q was How not what.

 

Uh, can you clean up the grammar??  I have no idea what you are saying in that sentence.

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gen 3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

 

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

After reading V3 Im sure she knew; evedently she was told and she was not in the dark on this.

 

But Paul says she was deceived.  So the question is, in what way was she deceived?

 

He may have eaten it in front of her once and he did not die so she may have been convinced she would not either, a guess.

It could be somehow he knew it would not affect him as it would them. another possibiliy he may have eaten  fifty times in front of her before she tried it.

 

No, if He had eaten of it first man would have fallen.  Where do get the idea that he might have eaten first?   Sorry, but nothing in what you said jives with the Bible.

 

As I stated; I was guessing unwritten answers to Your question as to how she was deceived. When you ask "how was she deceived"  You must have known the Bible does not say how; so anyone trying to answer your question, like me, is simply guessing as to how.

We don't have to guess how she was deceived.  The Bible tells us how she was deceived.  All you need to do is read it.  The devil decieved Eve into believing that what God said wasn't true.

 

I understand and Im thinking you also understand the answer to Your Question is Not in the Bible. Therefore you can not expect scripture when you ask what you have.

 

No, the answer IS in the Bible.  Sorry, but it is right there in front of you, if you read it.

 

you are saying  " what the devil did Not how he did it your Q was How not what.

 

Uh, can you clean up the grammar??  I have no idea what you are saying in that sentence.

 

 

[from post 2 shiloh]

She didn't say what God said.  She said that God said they were not touch it.  But God didn't say that.  He said they were not to eat of it.

 

the below verses show she did say what God said

I would say your above statement does not line up with scripture below.

 

Gen 3:2-3

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

 

I have read all the verses in these post and they all say she was deceived

I did not see a verse that explains HOW she was recieved. maybe im blind,

maybe dumb, maybe stupid, maybe just didnt see what you saw.

[enoob57]

yes I agree with coheir on this above... the first recorded lie is that of satan 'you will not die'.

Eve had not fallen yet so it must be understood as factual on the not touching part. Love, Steven