The 4 Spirits / Winds of Heaven.

[Enoch2021]

Hi Last Daze,

 

I`m glad that you see that approach as difficult also. Now it seems that Enoch doesn`t realise how he comes over so I will try & show him. If we can`t seem to discuss properly then what is the point of going round in circles.

 

Marilyn.

 

 

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He doesn't.  He has a "Bias" Problem as a result of His Unsupported Positions that were summarily refuted on other threads.  The "Tell" (besides those other threads) is the "Ambiguous" short "Color Commentary" and Baseless Assertion (Fallacy).

 

It's funny, I only seem to "come over" that way to people when I systematically challenge them for SUPPORT.  It appears they don't like that very much....another "Tell":  Taking "their" Postulates Personally =    It screams Pride or Agenda.

 

regards

[Enoch2021]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

I am truly sorry that you think I am `playing games, diverting, making frivolous claims to your character/integrity.` That would be quite hurtful & frustrating for you. As I said it seems we have a misunderstanding of each other`s way of communicating. Thus you can feel relieved & sit back while I just go on & post what I believe.

 

Yours in His service, Marilyn.

 

 

PS. Thank you for the correction of `indignation,` re: Zech. 1: 12 Jerusalem & Judah.

 

 

It appears you're diverting.... that may be or may not be the case: but the making of Frivolous Claims remark is "Spot On" because you outright did it with your post #48 Marilyn.

 

It's not hurtful to me because I've got a pretty Thick Skin and I know I didn't do it and Systematically Supported that That was the case; 

 

Like I told you before....All I'm after is the TRUTH.  I have my positions on matters that I didn't come to haphazardly...they survived my own Personal Crucible.  However, I don't personalize them and I'm not BONDED to them for Life no matter what; I'm fallible and make many mistakes  <-------That's where the GOOD STUFF comes from      

 

I float my thoughts on matters SO they will be disputed....I want them to be!  I want whomever to Systematically Summarily Refute them with Sound Reasoning and Support.... This is GOLD to me.

 

As I said:  (1 Thessalonians 5:21) "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."  These are my marching orders.

 

 

regards

[Marilyn C]

Hi Enoch2021,

 

Glad to see a smiley face there bro. Now I thought you might like what I think is `Gold.` You asked me to ` clarify what you were implying against "the rather obvious"----->GOD uses symbols. Your contrast wasn't a contrast of like vs like as shown.`

 

You said, `Stars and Suns are the same.` which they are, however I said –

`Horses & chariots & horses are different symbols – close, but different......
- Like morning star & sun of righteousness. (Rev. 22: 16 & Mal. 4: 2)`

 

The Morning Star –

 

The morning star is the herald of the coming day. It is seen by the `watchers,` or the early risers. In the spiritual heavens, Christ is also the Bright & Morning Star. (Rev. 22: 16) He is the One whom we eagerly await. We look to His `appearing.` (2 Tim. 4: 8)
Appearing – GK. `epiphaneia,` meaning, manifestation, brightness, to become visible, conspicuous.
And when Christ appears, we shall become like Him, changed & taken to glory. (Col. 3: 4)

 

 

The Sun of Righteousness –

 

The appearance of the morning star only intensifies the darkness of the night. So between the appearing of Christ as the Morning Star (for the Body of Christ) & His coming as the Sun of Righteousness (for Israel & the Nations – Mal. 4: 2) there will be a period of great darkness, known as the Tribulation.

 

`Immediately after the tribulation of those days...all the tribes of the earth mourn, & they see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power & great glory.` (Matt. 24: 29 & 30)
`But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in His wings; ....` (Mal. 4: 2)

 

 

How wonderful the Lord has revealed to us these titles of Himself. Marilyn.
 

Edited December 14, 2014 by Marilyn C

[Last Daze]

 

An accurate and concise assessment from my perspective as well.  I don't find that style of "discussion" to be meaningful or constructive nor is it one I wish to engage in.  The obfuscation only makes it difficult to glean the gems that might be there.

 

 

Thanks for the "ambiguous" Color Commentary.

 

What "obfuscation" might that be, pray tell?

 

 

You have to want to know in order to see it.  It's there.

[Enoch2021]

 

 

 

 

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Marilyn....

 

You said, after I asked "you" to support your Baseless Assertions-----> That the Beasts of Daniel 7 were related to the four winds/spirits in heaven here in Zechariah...Creating an Entire Different Thread for the Matter and opening it up for discussion.... for "your" support,  which is beyond comprehension to me; Notwithstanding...

So, are you gonna SUPPORT your Baseless Assertion(s);  Yes or No?  If Yes, lets here it!    If No, then tell me and we can move on. 

 

You are going to see this reply (Directly Above) until you either SUPPORT "your" thesis or drop it, just fyi. 

 

 

ps.   "there will be a period of great darkness, known as the Tribulation."

 

There is no period known as the "Tribulation".  There is only the "great tribulation" beginning with the Abomination of Desolation and ending 3.5 years later.  Just because the "great tribulation" begins in the midst of the 70th Week doesn't IPSO FACTO mean that the first 3.5 years is just "Tribulation" or that the WHOLE is this.   Especially, but not limited to the fact that..... some sort of a PEACE Treaty begins the first half of the 70th Week.  

Whoever started this extrapolation from vapor "Assumption" has seriously "muddied up" the waters with an already complex subject.

[Enoch2021]

 

 

An accurate and concise assessment from my perspective as well.  I don't find that style of "discussion" to be meaningful or constructive nor is it one I wish to engage in.  The obfuscation only makes it difficult to glean the gems that might be there.

 

 

Thanks for the "ambiguous" Color Commentary.

 

What "obfuscation" might that be, pray tell?

 

 

You have to want to know in order to see it.  It's there.

 

 

 

geez.

 

Why not just throw your Deuce Seven Off Suit in the muck and head off to the rail and be done with it?  I've already "Called".... All In!!  Everybody knows (from the very beginning) what you're Holding.  

[Marilyn C]

Oh Enoch2021,

 

I thought you`d like those interesting thoughts on our Lord.  Now just be patient. I`m off to the Dentist today & lunch with a friend, so see you all later.

 

Marilyn.

[Last Daze]

 

 

 

An accurate and concise assessment from my perspective as well.  I don't find that style of "discussion" to be meaningful or constructive nor is it one I wish to engage in.  The obfuscation only makes it difficult to glean the gems that might be there.

 

 

Thanks for the "ambiguous" Color Commentary.

 

What "obfuscation" might that be, pray tell?

 

 

You have to want to know in order to see it.  It's there.

 

 

 

geez.

 

Why not just throw your Deuce Seven Off Suit in the muck and head off to the rail and be done with it?  I've already "Called".... All In!!  Everybody knows (from the very beginning) what you're Holding.  

 

 

Praying for you.

[Guest]

Royal Children

 

And because ye are sons,

 

God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. Galatians 4:6

 

Speak The Royal Language

 

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. Titus 3:2

 

Of Their Father's

 

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear;

 

but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Romans 5:8

 

Court

 

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Galatians 5:22

[Marilyn C]

Hi Joe,

 

Amen.  That we all try to do that by God`s grace.

 

Marilyn.