Guest shiloh357 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 None of that has any bearing on simply operating within the parameters of the matrix of economics that everyone, including every Christian ministry in the world operates by. You need to lose the hyper-spirituality and come back to reality. Isa 55:1 55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. KJV I believe your under a delusion that because the world does a thing it is acceptable to God... No, I believe that the reason economics work is because it works and there is nothing about the rules of economics (which you live by as well) that is at odds with anything in the Bible. I am under no delusions. You are simply not wanting to concede a debate you lost a long time ago. Your whole world view of economics is dissolved by the economics of The Lord which is coming. That may sound spiritual to you, but it is complete and utter nonsense. It's as nonsensical as your convoluted notions of what fraud is. The entirety of the world system can find no place in what will be that is why it will be burnt up... Love, Steven That may be true, but the rules that govern economics are not sinful, nor are they ungodly. You are trying to take the very economic rules we all live by and cast them as being ungodly or sinful. Yet these same rules of economics are the same rules that govern even how Christian ministries operate. By your logic, they are all committing fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seandavids Posted December 11, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 244 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 63 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/10/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted December 11, 2014 the fall of Rome was preceded by accepting homosexual behavior as normal, take a good look at America and wave good bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted December 11, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted December 11, 2014 the fall of Rome was preceded by accepting homosexual behavior as normal, take a good look at America and wave good bye I don't believe that was the only reason for Rome's fall. The Romans were pretty oppressive to the Jews, allowed for the unjust crucifixion of Christ, and destroyed the temple. Any one of those things may have been enough to seal their fate. Or, YHVH just let them succomb to their carnal sins and they destroyed themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 11, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,353 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,544 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 11, 2014 None of that has any bearing on simply operating within the parameters of the matrix of economics that everyone, including every Christian ministry in the world operates by. You need to lose the hyper-spirituality and come back to reality.Isa 55:155 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money;come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.KJVI believe your under a delusion that because the world does a thing it is acceptable to God...No, I believe that the reason economics work is because it works and there is nothing about the rules of economics (which you live by as well) that is at odds with anything in the Bible. I am under no delusions. You are simply not wanting to concede a debate you lost a long time ago. Your whole world view of economics is dissolved by the economics of The Lord which is coming.That may sound spiritual to you, but it is complete and utter nonsense. It's as nonsensical as your convoluted notions of what fraud is. The entirety of the world system can find no place in what will be that is why it will beburnt up... Love, StevenThat may be true, but the rules that govern economics are not sinful, nor are they ungodly. You are trying to take the very economic rules we all live by and cast them as being ungodly or sinful. Yet these same rules of economics are the same rules that govern even how Christian ministries operate. By your logic, they are all committing fraud.Luke 18:88 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 None of that has any bearing on simply operating within the parameters of the matrix of economics that everyone, including every Christian ministry in the world operates by. You need to lose the hyper-spirituality and come back to reality. Isa 55:1 55 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. KJV I believe your under a delusion that because the world does a thing it is acceptable to God... No, I believe that the reason economics work is because it works and there is nothing about the rules of economics (which you live by as well) that is at odds with anything in the Bible. I am under no delusions. You are simply not wanting to concede a debate you lost a long time ago. Your whole world view of economics is dissolved by the economics of The Lord which is coming. That may sound spiritual to you, but it is complete and utter nonsense. It's as nonsensical as your convoluted notions of what fraud is. The entirety of the world system can find no place in what will be that is why it will be burnt up... Love, Steven That may be true, but the rules that govern economics are not sinful, nor are they ungodly. You are trying to take the very economic rules we all live by and cast them as being ungodly or sinful. Yet these same rules of economics are the same rules that govern even how Christian ministries operate. By your logic, they are all committing fraud. Luke 18:8 8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? KJV Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted December 12, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,353 Content Per Day: 7.99 Reputation: 21,544 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted December 12, 2014 What do you say we debate this in the proper forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 What do you say we debate this in the proper forum... Go ahead and start thread. I will join you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjp34652 Posted December 12, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 448 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 156 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 12, 2014 At first, I emphasize that my article is not homophobic and hate speech, but viewpoint considering harmful and problematic effects that legalizing of the gay marriages causes. I live in Finland and I study this subject from the national perspective and also world wide. My article deals with matters that are very often overlooked or has not observed. http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/gaymarriageharmfuleffects.html Harmful effects of gay marriage? Has anyone considered divorce, which is now a major issue in the gay community whether they admit to it or not. Hollywood seems to have ignored this fact of life. Gay or straight, divorce is destructive to the family unit. This should not in any way be construed as support of the gay lifestyle. It is submitted merely as an observation. and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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