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They can believe in evolution without hard evidence.  I guess people can believe in little green men without having to have evidence for that, either and still call it "science."


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Interesting thread. I was just watching a TED talk lastnight about the various craft that we've deployed to explore our solar system. The speaker mentioned the possibility that there are moons that may harbor life. Let's say we fast forward and we have a probe on such a moon and it discovers that life does exist indeed exist there. Does this have any implications for a Christian worldview?

To answer your specific question. No, it would not alter Christian perspective.

Given the money and politics wrapped up in the idea of evolution, I would be forever skeptical of any "findings" - for one.

Unless, of course, you think that our politicians would never lie to us...especially about something that continues to line their coffers. See what I mean? At this point of indoctrination, nothing could ever be introduced without genuine speculation ( I mean skepticism).

Even if there (truly) was life found on a moon, it still wouldn't alter God's account of Genesis. - two

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They can believe in evolution without hard evidence.  I guess people can believe in little green men without having to have evidence for that, either and still call it "science."

:) Yes, Shiloh, I agree. 'Still love the name. 'Still love the Regan picture and the quotes.


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I never watched TED talk. I can only assume it's secular.

There is always "talk" about life on other planets, or moons. Talk with no evidence, but not without reason.

We have invested ourselves, as a culture (nearly worldwide) in the belief of evolution. However, we have discovered that abiogenesis could never have happened on this planet. Nearly all evolutionists are atheists, nearly all of them in the "accepted" scientific community. Guess what? Instead of seeking another option (other than evolution) we "look to the stars" for life that 'could have come here'.  This is the "reason". Again, without evidence. It's the evolutionist's (specifically atheists) grasping at straws.

Nobody is grasping any straws. The speaker was merely stating that some moons in our solar system seem to show regions that show signs of being able to support biological life [water, heat, nutrients etc]. They don't know if there is any life there yet. We're probably going to find out in our lifetimes.

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They can believe in evolution without hard evidence.  I guess people can believe in little green men without having to have evidence for that, either and still call it "science."

they're actually little gray people for the most part...   with big old eyes..      only in this day and time I'm not sure what evidence most of us would need.......   maybe if they walked up and shook our hand.....      maybe.


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I never watched TED talk. I can only assume it's secular.

There is always "talk" about life on other planets, or moons. Talk with no evidence, but not without reason.

We have invested ourselves, as a culture (nearly worldwide) in the belief of evolution. However, we have discovered that abiogenesis could never have happened on this planet. Nearly all evolutionists are atheists, nearly all of them in the "accepted" scientific community. Guess what? Instead of seeking another option (other than evolution) we "look to the stars" for life that 'could have come here'.  This is the "reason". Again, without evidence. It's the evolutionist's (specifically atheists) grasping at straws.

Nobody is grasping any straws. The speaker was merely stating that some moons in our solar system seem to show regions that show signs of being able to support biological life [water, heat, nutrients etc]. They don't know if there is any life there yet. We're probably going to find out in our lifetimes.

 

Well, if you keep up with the people at the Vatican observatories, we may well not have long to wait to meet these ET's


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I never watched TED talk. I can only assume it's secular.

There is always "talk" about life on other planets, or moons. Talk with no evidence, but not without reason.

We have invested ourselves, as a culture (nearly worldwide) in the belief of evolution. However, we have discovered that abiogenesis could never have happened on this planet. Nearly all evolutionists are atheists, nearly all of them in the "accepted" scientific community. Guess what? Instead of seeking another option (other than evolution) we "look to the stars" for life that 'could have come here'.  This is the "reason". Again, without evidence. It's the evolutionist's (specifically atheists) grasping at straws.

Nobody is grasping any straws. The speaker was merely stating that some moons in our solar system seem to show regions that show signs of being able to support biological life [water, heat, nutrients etc]. They don't know if there is any life there yet. We're probably going to find out in our lifetimes.

 

Water and heat are definitely consequential to life as we know it. We can, presumably observe these things. Nutrients, however, not so much. I mean that we haven't observed the specific minerals on any satellite other than our own. If you still believe in the moon landing :) .

Even if all the conditions are "right", however, it doesn't mean that life just appeared. After all (like I said) we've come to the conclusion that abiogenesis couldn't have happened on our planet. It sure couldn't happen on any moon. If there happened to be lifeforms on a moon, it would only serve as further evidence of God. Not that we're ever likely to find any.

Also, as I said, it would do nothing to diminish the Biblical account of Genesis.


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Interesting thread. I was just watching a TED talk lastnight about the various craft that we've deployed to explore our solar system. The speaker mentioned the possibility that there are moons that may harbor life. Let's say we fast forward and we have a probe on such a moon and it discovers that life does exist indeed exist there. Does this have any implications for a Christian worldview?

 

For all we know, God may have put life on other planets but just hasn't told us. It's irrelevant to my beliefs. How do we know what his long term plans are?


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Interesting thread. I was just watching a TED talk lastnight about the various craft that we've deployed to explore our solar system. The speaker mentioned the possibility that there are moons that may harbor life. Let's say we fast forward and we have a probe on such a moon and it discovers that life does exist indeed exist there. Does this have any implications for a Christian worldview?

 

For all we know, God may have put life on other planets but just hasn't told us. It's irrelevant to my beliefs. How do we know what his long term plans are?

 

You're absolutely correct, Oakwood. We, as creations can't assume the intent of the Creator. I agree.

Maybe He did place life on other planets. If He did it's irrelevant to our life here on this planet with the Bible He gave us on this planet.

Which segues into my next point...the Bible. Yes, we can know what His long term plans are. He told us so. In His Word, the Bible. He always has.


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OakWood. I apologize. Please, forgive me. I realized that we're arguing the same side. Again, please forgive me.

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