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Hi Oakwood,

 

Yes Turkey is north of Israel as is Lebanon etc. But they are not the northern quarter, as I see it, in relationship to the globe. That is what I believe God is saying otherwise He would have said it differently.

 

Marilyn. 

 

PS. An other interesting scripture I see with this is in Zechariah.

 

`Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.` (Zech. 6: 8)

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Hi. Your take on Gog is very interesting. I had never thought of it that way before but it makes a lot of sense.  

 

 

Thank you Diaste

 

About the Medes... Not sure they would be the Kings of the East but may be a part of it. It's widely understood the Kings of the East come to the Valley with an army of 200 million, all riding chimeras (not horses). I don't think there are 200 million people between the Mediterranean and India.

 

 

 

From Wikipedia

 

The Medes [N1] (/miːdz/, Old Persian Māda-, Ancient Greek: Μῆδοι, Hebrew: מָדַי) were an ancient Iranian people [N2] who lived in an area known as Media (North-western Iran and south-east Turkey) and who spoke the Median language.

 

 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_people

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The Persian people (Persian: پارسیان) are an Iranian people who speak the modern Persian language and closely related Iranian dialects and languages. Their origins are traced to the ancient Iranian peoples, themselves part of the Indo-Iranian branch of the greater Indo-European peoples.

 

We can see they are both from the same area and are East of Israel.

I think that the 200 million is all the armies combined flowing in to Israel to war each other.  I'm not positive though. Just trying to make sense that the four angels let out of the bottomless pit are responsible for causing this war with all the kings of the earth, therefore all their armies gathered there in total would make sense of this number.  If this number is just the Kings of the East, then I could see this number also.

The Kings of the East have allies also.  Daniel mentions the King of the South in the latter days, and also another King of the North (Russia?  China?, both?)  I think all the muslem countries will combine and become Iran's allies. 

 

 Daniel 11:40   And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

 

We know that during these times that the False Prophet has the king of the North, South, and East pushing at him (East mentioned in rev, and the Medes mentioned in the OT referring to end times.).

No mention of the West?  Big clue who they are really warring.

I can only guess the False Prophets main enemies with power would be Iran, Russia, China, and all their allies, like India, Indonesia, Malaysia etc against the West in Israel.

What do you think?, can you see these countries teaming up with heavy muslem numbers against the predominant non muslem countries?


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I don't believe that Ezekiel 38 takes place after the Millennium. It doesn't make sense. At the end of the battle the Israelis use the weapons of their enemies as fuel for seven years and also the Third Temple is built.

The Gog, Magog war mentioned in Revelation is a separate war.

 

Hi Oakwood.

 

Rev mentions the Battle of Gog and Magog after the thousand year reign.

Ezekiel 38 speaks about the battle of Gog and Magog.

 

Ezekiel 38:8   After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

 

Satan released from Prison.  The land that is brought back from the sword is Israel.  Israel has always been at war, and even in Rev we know that the 3rd ww will take place in Israel.  This scripture says that Israel will dwell safely, all of them.  This is the kingdom of Israel during the millennial reign.  They are at peace.

 

 

Ezekiel 38:10   Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

 

Satan has always had an evil thought.  Imagine, he is punished and put in prison for a thousand years.  Feeling defeated for so long, and being blocked spiritually from the prophecies concerning him,  he suddenly gets let loose.  He's been blocked from seeing the transformation of Israel, and sees a people living in peace, so bountiful.  All the riches and treasures will be there in Israel.  It will be like a paradise.  This evil thought he has is to attack this place of peace and take it for himself.

 

Ezekiel 38:11   And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

 Ezekiel 38:12   To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

 

This is the kingdom he is seeing, holy Jerusalem.  The lamb is their protection which is why it has no walls, bars or gates.

The camp is only surrounded, Gog does not enter.

The difference is that the war a thousand years earlier, caused devastation throughout Israel and many deaths, leaving it in ruins.  But now it's transformed into a type of Eden, and the Lord is there with them this time. 

 

After this Gog and Magog war, the weapons of war are made out of wood and are burn't.

Remember Christ when he returned a thousand years earlier destroyed Babylon with all her merchants, and industry was gone.  That system is gone.  It will go back to basics.

 

Isaiah 2:4   And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

 

This can only happen during the millennium.

When Satan is let loose, he is going to have to use what's available, and that is wood.  No weapons of war around, and God did promise that we will never see the system of Babylon again. 

I hope I'm making sense,

You don't have to accept what I say, I'm just trying to reason.


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I don't believe that Ezekiel 38 takes place after the Millennium. It doesn't make sense. At the end of the battle the Israelis use the weapons of their enemies as fuel for seven years and also the Third Temple is built.

The Gog, Magog war mentioned in Revelation is a separate war.

 

Hi Oakwood.

 

Rev mentions the Battle of Gog and Magog after the thousand year reign.

Ezekiel 38 speaks about the battle of Gog and Magog.

 

Ezekiel 38:8   After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

 

Satan released from Prison.  The land that is brought back from the sword is Israel.  Israel has always been at war, and even in Rev we know that the 3rd ww will take place in Israel.  This scripture says that Israel will dwell safely, all of them.  This is the kingdom of Israel during the millennial reign.  They are at peace.

 

 

Ezekiel 38:10   Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

 

Satan has always had an evil thought.  Imagine, he is punished and put in prison for a thousand years.  Feeling defeated for so long, and being blocked spiritually from the prophecies concerning him,  he suddenly gets let loose.  He's been blocked from seeing the transformation of Israel, and sees a people living in peace, so bountiful.  All the riches and treasures will be there in Israel.  It will be like a paradise.  This evil thought he has is to attack this place of peace and take it for himself.

 

Ezekiel 38:11   And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

 Ezekiel 38:12   To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

 

This is the kingdom he is seeing, holy Jerusalem.  The lamb is their protection which is why it has no walls, bars or gates.

The camp is only surrounded, Gog does not enter.

The difference is that the war a thousand years earlier, caused devastation throughout Israel and many deaths, leaving it in ruins.  But now it's transformed into a type of Eden, and the Lord is there with them this time. 

 

After this Gog and Magog war, the weapons of war are made out of wood and are burn't.

Remember Christ when he returned a thousand years earlier destroyed Babylon with all her merchants, and industry was gone.  That system is gone.  It will go back to basics.

 

Isaiah 2:4   And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

 

This can only happen during the millennium.

When Satan is let loose, he is going to have to use what's available, and that is wood.  No weapons of war around, and God did promise that we will never see the system of Babylon again. 

I hope I'm making sense,

You don't have to accept what I say, I'm just trying to reason.

 

 

Fair enough but it still doesn't make sense. Why build the Third Temple? The Millennium reign will be under Christ, not Jewish law. Again, the weapons are burned - why? Why burn them for seven years because there will then be a new heaven and new Earth. There will be nobody hanging around on the old Earth to burn weapons. The old Earth will be gone.


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Fair enough but it still doesn't make sense. Why build the Third Temple? The Millennium reign will be under Christ, not Jewish law. Again, the weapons are burned - why? Why burn them for seven years because there will then be a new heaven and new Earth. There will be nobody hanging around on the old Earth to burn weapons. The old Earth will be gone.

 

The Jews have not had a temple since 70Ad.  They all know there is to be a third temple coming, but this is the great delusion, ..the temple they are awaiting, which will be placed there in Jerusalem has an imposter sitting in it.  This is not the third temple, but a trick....an abomination which makes desolate.  They will probably copy the design from Solomons temple, but it's not the real thing, just a trap.  An imitation temple with an imitation Messiah.  The total opposite of what it should be.  Instead of the true Messiah with holiness sitting in there,  now  nothing but complete darkness ruling over them by an evil dictator who does not love them but takes pleasure in their destruction.  This is what it all leads too.

 

You are right in saying that the Millennial reign will be under Christ and not Jewish law.  It will be according to the New Covenant, which is Christ...the same law we are under now.  The only difference is that the remnants of Israel will be brought in to this kingdom area, and not the gentiles.  The gentile Christians and some Jews who took part in the first resurrection will be there of course and they will be "spirit".  The Jews will be "in the flesh."  They will marry, have children and live protected long lives.  The remnants from all generations of Israel will be brought in and God will finish what he started with them, but those called in are only according to the "election of grace".  In other words they are hand picked.  This means that the dead of Israel will be raised to flesh (not spirit), and with this chance they come to God through the Lamb whom he has given authority to lead them.  Then they will know God for the Lamb is "The Word of God".  We can only come to God through his Word.

 

After the 2nd war (battle of Gog and Magog) we know that the White throne judgement takes place.  It doesn't say straight away, and I also thought this once, which is how you would read it in Rev, but Ezekiel 28 gives us an insight that the White Throne judgement does not happen for at least another 7 years. It can't happen, not possible because of this scripture., so something is happening here for this duration of time.  Why exactly I don't know, ....all I know is that the end can not be yet.  This is a bit of a mystery, and I have been searching and searching for more clues but cannot find any thing else besides what is given.

 

One thing I have considered for the reason why it takes 7 months to burn all the weapons,.. could be because the army is so huge.  There are still nations around and people that did not follow Gog, will live to witness this event also.  Well they may not witness it personally, but news will spread.  I can't see them having t.v camera's or internet again, because Babylon's system is gone.  It may take this long for the news to spread throughout the world?  Maybe they go back to riding horses again instead of driving cars.  I really don't know the reasons why and wish I did, and maybe the answer could just be here?

 

Ezekiel 39:21   And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

Ezekiel 39:22   So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

 

Takes time for news to travel amongst the heathen.

The house of Israel however are there at the scene and have been learning for a thousand years, ...now they see action, that the Lord God saved them from their enemies the second time around, ...quite different this time...and Satan could not touch them as they are transformed because of the Lamb,...protected, loved, cherished and God was true to his word, fulfilling all prophesies concerning them.  That last generation of Israel will live to talk about it before their transformation in the 2nd resurrection.


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Fair enough but it still doesn't make sense. Why build the Third Temple? The Millennium reign will be under Christ, not Jewish law. Again, the weapons are burned - why? Why burn them for seven years because there will then be a new heaven and new Earth. There will be nobody hanging around on the old Earth to burn weapons. The old Earth will be gone.

 

The Jews have not had a temple since 70Ad.  They all know there is to be a third temple coming, but this is the great delusion, ..the temple they are awaiting, which will be placed there in Jerusalem has an imposter sitting in it.  This is not the third temple, but a trick....an abomination which makes desolate.  They will probably copy the design from Solomons temple, but it's not the real thing, just a trap.  An imitation temple with an imitation Messiah.  The total opposite of what it should be.  Instead of the true Messiah with holiness sitting in there,  now  nothing but complete darkness ruling over them by an evil dictator who does not love them but takes pleasure in their destruction.  This is what it all leads too.

 

You are right in saying that the Millennial reign will be under Christ and not Jewish law.  It will be according to the New Covenant, which is Christ...the same law we are under now.  The only difference is that the remnants of Israel will be brought in to this kingdom area, and not the gentiles.  The gentile Christians and some Jews who took part in the first resurrection will be there of course and they will be "spirit".  The Jews will be "in the flesh."  They will marry, have children and live protected long lives.  The remnants from all generations of Israel will be brought in and God will finish what he started with them, but those called in are only according to the "election of grace".  In other words they are hand picked.  This means that the dead of Israel will be raised to flesh (not spirit), and with this chance they come to God through the Lamb whom he has given authority to lead them.  Then they will know God for the Lamb is "The Word of God".  We can only come to God through his Word.

 

After the 2nd war (battle of Gog and Magog) we know that the White throne judgement takes place.  It doesn't say straight away, and I also thought this once, which is how you would read it in Rev, but Ezekiel 28 gives us an insight that the White Throne judgement does not happen for at least another 7 years. It can't happen, not possible because of this scripture., so something is happening here for this duration of time.  Why exactly I don't know, ....all I know is that the end can not be yet.  This is a bit of a mystery, and I have been searching and searching for more clues but cannot find any thing else besides what is given.

 

One thing I have considered for the reason why it takes 7 months to burn all the weapons,.. could be because the army is so huge.  There are still nations around and people that did not follow Gog, will live to witness this event also.  Well they may not witness it personally, but news will spread.  I can't see them having t.v camera's or internet again, because Babylon's system is gone.  It may take this long for the news to spread throughout the world?  Maybe they go back to riding horses again instead of driving cars.  I really don't know the reasons why and wish I did, and maybe the answer could just be here?

 

Ezekiel 39:21   And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

Ezekiel 39:22   So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

 

Takes time for news to travel amongst the heathen.

The house of Israel however are there at the scene and have been learning for a thousand years, ...now they see action, that the Lord God saved them from their enemies the second time around, ...quite different this time...and Satan could not touch them as they are transformed because of the Lamb,...protected, loved, cherished and God was true to his word, fulfilling all prophesies concerning them.  That last generation of Israel will live to talk about it before their transformation in the 2nd resurrection.

 

 

So what you are saying then is that Ezekiel 40 is a trick - just false scripture to trick the Jews. They're going to build a temple on the basis of trickery in scripture?

Sorry, but that's what it sounds like you are saying.

 

The temple is not placed there with some ready-made imposter already hiding in it, as if it just drops out of the sky.

The Jews build the temple themselves, perform the first sacrifice (a red heifer) and then at some point after this the anti-Christ takes over the temple.

The reason that the Jews burn fuel for seven years is because this corresponds to the seven years of the Tribulation.

 

What you are saying is that after the Millenium, a coalition of countries that just happen by coincidence to correspond to present day Muslim ones (despite the fact that Islam would have long been eradicated for a thousand years) decide to invade Israel who are then deceived by a false temple with an imposter in it.

It just doesn't sound very convincing.

 

Revelation 20 does not specify any nations like Ezekiel does. It mentions nations in all four quarters of the Earth, and the Ezekiel alliance does not correspond to all four quarters only the Middle East.


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So what you are saying then is that Ezekiel 40 is a trick - just false scripture to trick the Jews. They're going to build a temple on the basis of trickery in scripture?

Sorry, but that's what it sounds like you are saying.

 

Hi Oakwood.

No, I am saying that there are 2 different wars.  The second war of Ezekiel 28 is a thousand years "after" the 2nd coming and 1st resurrection.  There will be no false temple during the 1000 years, because Christ is here ruling. 

Please note that no scripture is false.  Ezekiel 28 explains it exactly the way it will turn out.

 

The false temple with the false Messiah I explained is not of the same period that Ezekiel 28 is speaking of....it's a thousand years before.  This false temple and false Messiah will happen in our days, and will be set up before Jesus 2nd coming.  We who know our scriptures will not be deceived during this time.  Those who do not know will be.

 

The temple is not placed there with some ready-made imposter already hiding in it, as if it just drops out of the sky.

The Jews build the temple themselves, perform the first sacrifice (a red heifer) and then at some point after this the anti-Christ takes over the temple.

The reason that the Jews burn fuel for seven years is because this corresponds to the seven years of the Tribulation.

 

Yes, the Jews would have to build the temple because the False prophet will be occupying Israel, making Jerusalem his headquarters, and will use them to build it.  The delusion will be so great in these times and we don't know if the False prophet will say he is the Messiah, or one is coming, and tell them to get the temple ready,..I don't know? All I know is that he will be full of miracles and lying wonders, and ends up sitting in there himself when everything he has set out to do is achieved. It will take three and a half years to plan and build this temple and have it completed. He is only there for 3 1/2 years.  When this temple is declared finished and he sits in there, falsely showing himself that he is god, then we know that the coming is very soon.  45 days to be exact if you read Daniel 12.

 

The tribulation during these times is not seven years but clearly stated three and a half years. 

 

Daniel 12:11   And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Revelation 11:2   But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

The three and a half years before this is the leading up to the tribulation, ...the manipulation of all the nations, and getting the system ready to be put in to place by causing propaganda with false news, false events, small wars, and false rumours of wars etc, ...using lies to shape peoples opinions, instilling fear to justify themselves with the laws they will change.  Using spy technology to supposedly safe guard us, but actually getting the system ready for their leader, so no one can escape what they have planned.  This is all happening now, it is being set up.

They will even cause a global economic colapse, which will in turn cause poverty, sickness, disease, hunger, and uproars.  They create the problem, only to solve it with their solution.  Now they will bring in their New World Order, a new system, and their leader will shortly emerge enforcing those laws. 

 

The False Prophet will only be in power for 3 1/2 years, no longer. The tribulation starts when he is given power and puts an ultimatum on everyone to make a choice with taking the mark of the beast....The tribulation starts here and till the end is only three and a half years.


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Oakwood,

 

 

What you are saying is that after the Millenium, a coalition of countries that just happen by coincidence to correspond to present day Muslim ones (despite the fact that Islam would have long been eradicated for a thousand years) decide to invade Israel who are then deceived by a false temple with an imposter in it.

It just doesn't sound very convincing.

 

What I am saying is that when Satan is released from prison, after the thousand years, he starts trouble again;

 

 Revelation 20:8   And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

These are not just muslem nations, he goes to the four quarters of the earth - in other words around the whole earth to gather men to attack this holy city that is so prosperous, which happens to be the kingdom where Israel dwells, Holy Jerusalem.  This is the bait God has put there for Satan, to lure him, ...this kingdom area on earth with all the precious things.

 

There will be no war for a thousand years because the enemy Satan has been put away during this time.  When he is let out, he goes back to doing what he does best and that is spreading lies and stirring trouble.

The truth has been spread by Israel during those thousand years.  That is their mission, to teach the outside nations that survived Armageddon the truth.  Of course a thousand years is a long time, and there will be some stubborn ones at the end of it who despite all the truth they have heard, have wickedness in their hearts still.  Well God has to do a final sifting, and uses Gog so that that generation will go through their test also to separate the good from the bad.

 

Revelation 20 does not specify any nations like Ezekiel does. It mentions nations in all four quarters of the Earth, and the Ezekiel alliance does not correspond to all four quarters only the Middle East.

 

 

Rev 20 starts off with Satan being bound for a thousand years;

 

 Revelation 20:2   And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
 Revelation 20:3   And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

 

 

Then it speaks of Satan being released when the 1000 years are over;

 

 Revelation 20:7   And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
 Revelation 20:8   And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

Satan does not get bound in prison until Christ returns at the 2nd coming.

When Christ returns he takes over all the kingdoms of this earth, and rules from Holy Jerusalem for a thousand years.

The thousand years is a time of rest for everybody, and because the devil is locked away, peace returns to Israel and the whole earth.  No wars, no oppressor, just peace for a thousand years.

 

 Isaiah 14:7   The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

 Isaiah 14:8   Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

 

 

Israel will be a model nation because they are truly serving the Lord and being taught by him without interference from the oppressor.

Where they dwell has boundaries.  This is called the "camp of the Saints" , or "Holy Jerusalem". 

Israel which was left in ruins from Armageddon is restored and turned into a paradise.  It stands out from everything.  It is a place where the truth is taught, and the surviving people of the other nations can come in and learn but not dwell.  It will be full of orchards, and all the riches of the world.  They will build their own houses, have children and multiply for a thousand years.  They will live in safety, and full of the knowledge of the Lord.

 

So when Satan is released from his prison, he sees a people living in peace having all the wonderful things (Israel), and thinks an evil thought to take it off them.  He uses Gog, to gather Magog, the armies who are collected from the 4 quarters of the earth (the whole earth) to attack this holy place.  God has used Satan one last time to round up all those with evil still in their hearts, so that he can bring them all to the one place and destroy them in one hit....the final sifting of all living men.

 

The seven years it takes to collect all the dead bodies written in Ezekiel are buried in the Valley of Hamon Gog.

now compare it to all the dead at Armageddon a thousand years earlier......they are buried in the Valley of Hinnom. 

Two different wars, a thousand years apart.  Two different valleys.

When we are reading Ezekiel 28, we are going way way into the future after the 1000 years of peace. 

I think it is wonderful that God has shared this with us.

 

I suggest that you don't just believe every word I say, but check it out for yourself.  Please ask for any scriptures if you need.


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I would never recommend analysing both Biblical prophecy and Islamic prophecy to gain a full understanding. But viewing Islamic prophecy as Satan's reversed roles of Biblical prophetic characters to appear in the future, we can actually gain further insight.

 

Bible: Rev 13:   Antichrist/beast will rule for 42 months supported by two small centres (little horns) that control religion in the world (think Vatican/Turkish Caliph) . Then Jesus will come on the clouds (Rev 19) and destroy the enemies of God

 

Bible :  Daniel 2:  The two parts of Rome (EU/Turkey) will rule until the Lord destroys the Rome beast (Daniel 7)

 

Sunni Islam:     A future Islamic leader called the  Mahdi (Turkish Caliph) will rule Islam and the prophet Jesus will be the Jewish Messiah and rule Israel and the world will be at peace. There will be peace between Christian (Vatican/Catholics) and Islam 

 

Shi-ite Islam:   A future Islamic leader called the  Mahdi will use this "Jesus" to gather Jews in Israel in a false peace , and allow this temporary peace while "Jesus" gathers Jews to Israel for slaughter. Then in a sudden surprise attack by the Mahdi, all Islam and their allies will attack this false "Jesus" in Israel. At that time Satan will come on the clouds and the Shi-ite armies will fight Satan in the clouds as well as destroying the false "Jesus" in Jerusalem.  

 

Do you see how prophecy is unfolding in the Sunni and Shi-ite plans?   Basically Sunni Islam (Turkey) will be used by Shi-ite Islam (Iran) to gather Jews for the slaughter. Turkey will encourage a Jewish/Christian/Islamic peace and give the Jews a false Messiah. This "Messiah" will bring temporary peace to the world. Then all Islam , including Turkey will turn on this false Messiah and attack Jerusalem and they even plan to attack the true Jesus himself when Jesus appears in the clouds on behalf of Israel and Jerusalem. 

 

Please see the Islamic plans for this peaceful Turkish Union:

http://www.turkishislamicunion.com/

Adnan Oktar is a prominent Turkish Sunni Islamic cleric and the main promoter of this Union. He is a friend of prominent Jewish politicians and rabbis.  He proposes allowing Israel a "Messiah" to bring world peace.


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I do believe that during the Millennial Reign the earth is repopulated like the sands of the sea. Scripture says that rain is withheld from everyone who does not come to worship the Lord year after year so there are people living on the earth. 

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