Questions about verses in Psalms

[missmuffet]

I thought we were not supposed to hate.Can anyone explain these verses for me?

 

 

Psalm 139:20-22 For they speak against You wickedly;

Your enemies take Your name in vain.[a]
21 Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
22 

I hate them with perfect hatred;
I count them my enemies.

[Openly Curious]

God's ememies are also my enemies and there is nothing I love within my enemies for they are out for my destruction and nothing else. I do not have to be vengeful towards those who hate me and try to get them back for the things they do to me as vengenace is mine saith the Lord. But I can let the Lord fight my battles for me and he will repay those who are out for my hurt.

There is a time to hate as is written in scripture as well.

I do not love the things my enemies plot against me in secret just for the cause of causing my destruction and personal harm and for no other reason than that. Not because I did them any harm or ill will. But just for the fact I am a Christian and stand for God.

But I hate and I stress the word "hate" because that is exactly what it is that I have for the "wicked ways" of those who hate me. Not hate so much for the person themselves but hate instead for their wickedness in which they are bringing to pass. I think there is a big difference between the two. God loves me but he hates my sins or wicked ways. Hope this helps some with your questions.

[ayin jade]

http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-hate.html

 

Cut to the chase.

[chloe_fantastic]

I think it's also important to remember that not all Scripture is instructive. In other words, just because the Psalmist is here expressing a feeling, that doesn't necessarily mean we're meant to emulate it.

[gdemoss]

The Old Testament says alot of things. When Jesus came he said 'But I say unto you'.

It is what is meant when Paul says 'but I show you a better way'.

Jesus rode the Pharisees hard and said to them that they omitted the weightier matters of the law. Jesus is the prince of peace. The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could 'see' God interacting with man.

[Openly Curious]

But what of the scriptures in Psalms in the OP. ???

[gdemoss]

But what of the scriptures in Psalms in the OP. ???

What of them?

[Openly Curious]

The Old Testament says alot of things. When Jesus came he said 'But I say unto you'.

It is what is meant when Paul says 'but I show you a better way'.

Jesus rode the Pharisees hard and said to them that they omitted the weightier matters of the law. Jesus is the prince of peace. The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could 'see' God interacting with man.

I fail to see the relation to what you have said in how it relates to the scriptures in the Psalms mentioned in the OP. It seems to me as if you are saying the things that were written in the OT scriptures are absolete now and have no meaning or wisdom to give us today. I find your statement that "The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could see God interacting with man" very bizzare and misguided. There is more in the OT scriptures than just weighter matters of the law as you've said. There is history of God's chosen people, the birth of Jesus was foretold from the beginning, the OT prophets foretold of things to come, there is hidden wisdom and knowledge of God to guide our lives, there are OT examples of living a life of faith and so forth but you dismiss it all and just see the weighter matters of the law. Or perhaps I miss read your meaning and message.

[gdemoss]

The Old Testament says alot of things. When Jesus came he said 'But I say unto you'.

It is what is meant when Paul says 'but I show you a better way'.

Jesus rode the Pharisees hard and said to them that they omitted the weightier matters of the law. Jesus is the prince of peace. The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could 'see' God interacting with man.

I fail to see the relation to what you have said in how it relates to the scriptures in the Psalms mentioned in the OP. It seems to me as if you are saying the things that were written in the OT scriptures are absolete now and have no meaning or wisdom to give us today. I find your statement that "The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could see God interacting with man" very bizzare and misguided. There is more in the OT scriptures than just weighter matters of the law as you've said. There is history of God's chosen people, the birth of Jesus was foretold from the beginning, the OT prophets foretold of things to come, there is hidden wisdom and knowledge of God to guide our lives, there are OT examples of living a life of faith and so forth but you dismiss it all and just see the weighter matters of the law. Or perhaps I miss read your meaning and message.

Yeah, you misread it. The Psalm in question gives us a deeper look at David, which in turn gives a greater understanding about how God relates to a man like him. It is very valuable information but I do not take it as instruction that I should hate. Jesus referenced they of old who said to hate your enemies. He said don't do that. He didn't say it was wrong to do so but rather that there was a better way. He expounded on the Old Testament, maginified it.

There is much more than meets the eye here.

[Openly Curious]

The Old Testament says alot of things. When Jesus came he said 'But I say unto you'.

It is what is meant when Paul says 'but I show you a better way'.

Jesus rode the Pharisees hard and said to them that they omitted the weightier matters of the law. Jesus is the prince of peace. The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could 'see' God interacting with man.

I fail to see the relation to what you have said in how it relates to the scriptures in the Psalms mentioned in the OP. It seems to me as if you are saying the things that were written in the OT scriptures are absolete now and have no meaning or wisdom to give us today. I find your statement that "The Old Testament was for our learning not so we could follow it as law but so we could see God interacting with man" very bizzare and misguided. There is more in the OT scriptures than just weighter matters of the law as you've said. There is history of God's chosen people, the birth of Jesus was foretold from the beginning, the OT prophets foretold of things to come, there is hidden wisdom and knowledge of God to guide our lives, there are OT examples of living a life of faith and so forth but you dismiss it all and just see the weighter matters of the law. Or perhaps I miss read your meaning and message.

Yeah, you misread it. The Psalm in question gives us a deeper look at David, which in turn gives a greater understanding about how God relates to a man like him. It is very valuable information but I do not take it as instruction that I should hate. Jesus referenced they of old who said to hate your enemies. He said don't do that. He didn't say it was wrong to do so but rather that there was a better way. He expounded on the Old Testament, maginified it.

No one has even suggested the scripture in Psalms teaches or instructs us to hate in the manner you speak of. Just what is that valuable information that is given or found in that passage in Psalms looking deeper at David. You fail to share it or relate it to the OP for the greater understanding of course. Or am I still missing your answer regarding and pertaining to the scripture in the OP that was asked about specifically?