the sky is falling ... again

[udx]

 

 

Yeah, it's just hype.  I get so tired of these environmental nut jobs.

It saddens me that some Christians think we can do whatever we want to the environment without repercussions because God is in control.

 

I do understand that politicians often and do use tragedies such as environmental disasters as a power grabbing tool, but that is no excuse to completely disregard environmental issues.

 

UDX Christians know the outcome of all things... it is written down for us clearly and decisively. There will be

no surprises and the Word is sufficient to give peace to all areas of life now and what will be. Love, Steven

 

Like I said, the very sentiment you espouse is no excuse to be irresponsible and do whatever you feel like. It is no excuse to do nothing, just like it is no excuse to not do anything for God's kingdom just because we know it would turn out alright at the end. By this bad logic, you can argue that nobody would have to preach the gospel, because somehow it would preach itself because the outcome is already written 'clearly' and 'decisively'.

 

Had we completely disregard environmental problem, such as treating waste water, dumping toxins into lake and oceans, release of radioactive waste, recycling, because God would somehow take care of it, we would be living in a far more polluted environment and unpleasant environment than we are now.

[Guest shiloh357]

No one that I can see is suggesting that we be bad stewards of the planet and just pollute and trash as much as we like.  Many of us do what we can to recycle and reduce waste and get as much possible us out of something before we dispose of it.   We compost, recycle and dispose of chemical as safely as we can at the appropriate locations.

 

But we are not going to get into all of the unnecessary environmental conspiracy theories that you come on this board to foist upon us

[other one]

this country has taken great steps in cleaning up both our air and water....   we really need China to step up to what we have done before we destroy ourselves to make up for what others are doing today....

 

I think this is more about destroying the USA than cleaning up the environment.

[Guest Thallasa]

I agree in principal and   that  the western world  ,and most particularly the U.S. have greaty polluted the earth, with massive amounts of rubbish,and have thrown food into the sea when there is an excess ,rather than allow it to affect the markets .(stock exchange ).

The US uses half of the worlds resources especially in fuel ,and it is time that Christians faced the fact that they will be held accountable for their greed ,and for their destroying of the ecosystems . Whether or not this affects the temperature may not be conclusive ,but the former is certainly true, and is ignored by so many .

 

I do not agree that simply waiting for Jesus to come ,while ignoring the effect we have on others trying to survive on the planet

is going to please the Lord . How we treat each other, includes not destroying their capacity to grow crops to survive .    

[Guest Thallasa]

Well I am pleased to know that most people here are doing their best and that is all we can do .We cannot be responsible for the emerging economies, who until it gets too bad for them to live in, will want all the mod cons that we have had for years  :well not me as I have never had a car ,don't have a dishwasher now as .I like the simple life much like in chidlhood ,but with the tele (which is not trashy

like yours  ), and the internet . Sorry, but I have glanced some of the stuff you have on the tele, and I pray that it will not come here .

[Guest Thallasa]

You are probably correct ,I am quite old and there is no overall increase in temperature that I can observe .

 

About four years ago ,I think there was talk of an Eco tax in France which went on for ages ,but finally the people affected went on strike ,blocked ports and so on,  and the government backed down .They are now afraid of the lorry drivers etc and  it is really a non subject here  :  apart from lessening traffic in the big cities with alternate entry days for cars  ,and more bicyles 

[Guest Thallasa]

Yes but the polluters and rubbish dumpers will not be there as we will be responsible ,and enjoy looking after it all .

[enoob57]

Yeah, it's just hype.  I get so tired of these environmental nut jobs.

It saddens me that some Christians think we can do whatever we want to the environment without repercussions because God is in control.

 

I do understand that politicians often and do use tragedies such as environmental disasters as a power grabbing tool, but that is no excuse to completely disregard environmental issues.

UDX Christians know the outcome of all things... it is written down for us clearly and decisively. There will be

no surprises and the Word is sufficient to give peace to all areas of life now and what will be. Love, Steven

Like I said, the very sentiment you espouse is no excuse to be irresponsible and do whatever you feel like. It is no excuse to do nothing, just like it is no excuse to not do anything for God's kingdom just because we know it would turn out alright at the end. By this bad logic, you can argue that nobody would have to preach the gospel, because somehow it would preach itself because the outcome is already written 'clearly' and 'decisively'.

 

Had we completely disregard environmental problem, such as treating waste water, dumping toxins into lake and oceans, release of radioactive waste, recycling, because God would somehow take care of it, we would be living in a far more polluted environment and unpleasant environment than we are now.

Sometimes when we read between the lines we come away with a totally different context than that which is written...

The whole of my point is God says it's going to get bad beyond anything that is known! Because God who cannot lie guess

what is going to happen-?- Love, Steven

[MorningGlory]

I agree in principal and   that  the western world  ,and most particularly the U.S. have greaty polluted the earth, with massive amounts of rubbish,and have thrown food into the sea when there is an excess ,rather than allow it to affect the markets .(stock exchange ).

The US uses half of the worlds resources especially in fuel ,and it is time that Christians faced the fact that they will be held accountable for their greed ,and for their destroying of the ecosystems . Whether or not this affects the temperature may not be conclusive ,but the former is certainly true, and is ignored by so many .

 

I do not agree that simply waiting for Jesus to come ,while ignoring the effect we have on others trying to survive on the planet

is going to please the Lord . How we treat each other, includes not destroying their capacity to grow crops to survive .    

 

I don't know where you got your data, Thallasa, but I did a pretty thorough search to find the percentage of world resources used by the U.S. and it's less than 25%.  That's still disproportionate but we DO pay for all of that which supports the world economy.  As for pollution, we have done more than most other countries to clean up our act.  See below:

 

http://public.wsu.edu/~mreed/380American%20Consumption.htm

[enoob57]

I agree in principal and   that  the western world  ,and most particularly the U.S. have greaty polluted the earth, with massive amounts of rubbish,and have thrown food into the sea when there is an excess ,rather than allow it to affect the markets .(stock exchange ).

The US uses half of the worlds resources especially in fuel ,and it is time that Christians faced the fact that they will be held accountable for their greed ,and for their destroying of the ecosystems . Whether or not this affects the temperature may not be conclusive ,but the former is certainly true, and is ignored by so many .

 

I do not agree that simply waiting for Jesus to come ,while ignoring the effect we have on others trying to survive on the planet

is going to please the Lord . How we treat each other, includes not destroying their capacity to grow crops to survive .

 

I don't know where you got your data, Thallasa, but I did a pretty thorough search to find the percentage of world resources used by the U.S. and it's less than 25%.  That's still disproportionate but we DO pay for all of that which supports the world economy.  As for pollution, we have done more than most other countries to clean up our act.  See below:

 

http://public.wsu.edu/~mreed/380American%20Consumption.htm

You've always had a good sound mind toward logic... I'll stop there lest I puff you up