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As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested?  It's bemusing.


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I applaud the men who rejected the false teachings of Joel Osteen's words and standing up for the true word of God.If Osteen is preaching a lie then let that be known.

 

Galatians 1:7-9  which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

 

Matthew 7:15-20  “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.


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As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested?  It's bemusing.

So, you go onto someone else's property, let's say a concert hall, or a movie theater. The place is packed with people, who have traveled, taken time out of their day, perhaps paid good money for tickets etc. 

 

Do you support the right of anyone in the audience to just get up and be a distraction against what all those people, and yourself, came to see and hear?

 

Free speech is not unlimited, it is intended to allow you to protest your government, without fear of reprisal. It is not meant to allow Joe Blow to interrupt religious services.

 

It would allow people to speak their own viewpoints, and they can, just not in someone else's venue.

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Heckling someone on their own private property doesn't fall under the category of constitutionally protected speech.   It is more akin to harassment.


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I googled the church that the disrupters came from. One of them wrote a manifesto on that site. It seems to imply that they have a goal of disrupting "orthodoxy". They have a history of doing this kind of thing elsewhere and being arrested. They dont play well with others. 

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If they think Joel Osteen represents doctrinal Christian orthodoxy, they really haven't listened to his teachings very much and they don't know the Bible very well,  LOL


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Lol there is that.


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Lol I agree olsteen is a false prophet, but if you go into his church and scream your wrong in middle of service and they ask you to leave (or drag your butt out) that's not violating your rights-in fact if they have to drag you out its because your breaking the law-thats trespassing.


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If they think Joel Osteen represents doctrinal Christian orthodoxy, they really haven't listened to his teachings very much and they don't know the Bible very well,  LOL

That is for certain.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/29/six-men-accused-of-disrupting-joel-osteens-sermon-at-lakewood-church/?tid=sm_fb

 

As far as I know, we still have free speech in this country. Why were these guys arrested?  It's bemusing.

 

On the heels of murders of church people, the arrests are completely justified. Disturbing the peace is worthy of police detaining those who commit it.

 

Disrupting an orderly church service is not exercising free speech.

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