Evidence of a 1000 years rest

[missmuffet]

Terese,

 

Some more scriptures for you to ponder on Sister.

 

 Isaiah 65:18   But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

  Isaiah 65:19   And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

  Isaiah 65:20   There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

  Isaiah 65:21   And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

  Isaiah 65:22   They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

  Isaiah 65:23   They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

  Isaiah 65:24   And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

  Isaiah 65:25   The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

Why don't you tell us what those scriptures mean to you instead of just posting scripture?

[Serving]

Hi Daze,

 

I don't want to hijack this post either so I will have just one more say on this topic ..

 

 

Well....actually....you did reference it in this post.

 

Oh .. I honestly thought I left the verse out .. must be getting dementia or something ..  

 

 

I don't want to hijack Sister's thread but do want to make a couple of comments.  The main point at issue for me is that the other fallen angels besides Satan (who is bound) won't be "free range chickens" allowed to go wherever and do whatever.  You present an interesting interpretation and I don't disagree with it because like you said, it's mostly speculation, and we agree on the main point.

 

Thanks Daze, those devils will in no way be "free range chickens", they are still confined by God in the ruins of which they can not leave .. period .. which of course means they can never go near the human colonies in those times to corrupt anyone.

 

 

Understanding what Babylon is and the references to it can be a bit elusive.

 

It is she who gave birth to unfaithfulness and abominations.  She is the mother thereof.

 

and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”  Rev 17:5

 

She was around when Cain murdered Abel.

 

And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth.  Rev 18:24

 

I think Babylon, in a spiritual sense, refers to the kingdom of Satan and its influence upon the human race from the beginning.  Jeremiah foretold of this kingdom's destruction in reference to Babylon:

 

Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain [kingdom], who destroys the whole earth,” declares the Lord, and I will stretch out My hand against you, and roll you down from the crags, and I will make you a burnt out mountain.  Jeremiah 51:25

 

Most definitely agree .. this is spiritual Babylon .. regarding the Harlot, "she" is somewhat different .. "she" represents the spiritual dimension ruling over the physical (as you probably already know), and Rev 18 describes that physical dimension of "her", that representation of "her" physical "body" being destroyed.  

 

I'm glad you posted Jeremiah .. I have always liked that one & he has many more.

 

 

Granted, this influence of evil has manifestations in the natural realm.  Based on Rev 17 where she sits on the seven kingdoms, its not a stretch to think that the great city Nineveh was the "Babylon" of the Assyrian empire, the same with Susa, Athens, Rome, etc.  Wherever the office of king resided in those kingdoms could be allegorically referred to as "Babylon".

 

NICE .. yes excellent .. now Nineveh .. very good, look :

 

Nahum 1

 

1 The burden of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.

 

2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

 

3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

 

4 He rebuketh the sea, and maketh it dry, and drieth up all the rivers: Bashan languisheth, and Carmel, and the flower of Lebanon languisheth.

 

5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

 

6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

 

7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.

 

8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies.

 

9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.

 

10 For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.

 

11 There is one come out of thee, that imagineth evil against the LORD, a wicked counsellor.

 

12 Thus saith the LORD; Though they be quiet, and likewise many, yet thus shall they be cut down, when he shall pass through. Though I have afflicted thee, I will afflict thee no more.

 

13 For now will I break his yoke from off thee, and will burst thy bonds in sunder.

 

14 And the LORD hath given a commandment concerning thee, that no more of thy name be sown: out of the house of thy gods will I cut off the graven image and the molten image: I will make thy grave; for thou art vile.

 

15 Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off.

 

 

Obviously speaking of Babylon the Great .. So we can still call Babylon the Great Nineveh too .. all those highlighted parts I highlighted are related prophecies & subjects .. a big interlocking picture. 

 

 

 

So, when I approach the subject of "Babylon", I do so primarily from the spiritual source of it all...the kingdom of Satan, and secondarily from the natural perspective of brick and mortar cities.  With your understanding of Rev 18:2, the question arises as to whether every city qualifies or just the one described in Rev 17.  It's interesting to contemplate.

 

Yes, It is interesting to speculate on for sure ..

 

 

Thanks for sharing your view brother.  Blessings.

 

And yours too ..

 

God bless.

 

 

[Serving]

 

 

There will be no demon activity at all during the 1,000 years.

 

I'm inclined to agree but am more interested in how you substantiate that statement.

If Satan is bound, do you really think that God will allow his minions to roam free?  While we are not told that Satan and all of his evil spirits and demons are bound during the Millennium, it is implied by fact that their prince or ruler is bound.  Therefore all his servants are also bound.  There can be absolutely no sin and evil during the Millennium, otherwise it would not be the Millennium.

 

 

Hi Ezra,

 

This must seem strange to you if this is the first time you are hearing it .. but God does declare where the devils are "caged / bound" as I posted previously :  Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

 

Please consider that the millennial kingdom has BORDERS .. borders are to SEPARATE .. and outside that border is where the rest of the world is !!

 

Blessings.

[Last Daze]

 

Are you saying that no one will sin during the 1000 years? Will the sin nature have been eradicated? How do you support that notion?

That's a separate issue.  We all agree that Satan and his cohorts will be bound.  But the evidence that the sin nature will exist in humanity is shown by Rev 20:7-9, in which, upon his release, Satan deceives all the nations on the earth and gathers a countless multitude against Christ and Israel.  This is the final rebellion, after which Satan is cast into the Lake of Fire, and all the enemies of Christ are eradicated.

 

It is almost unbelievable that such a scenario will occur, but we have God's truth before us, therefore it will indeed happen as shown.  The book of Ezekiel provides further insight into the Battle of Gog and Magog.

 

Note: Christ's "rod of iron" (absolute control) will ensure that evil does not rear its ugly head during the Millennium.

 

 

Do I understand correctly that you are saying that people will have a sin nature during the 1000 years yet they will live perfect lives?  You stated that there can be absolutely no sin during this time.

[Last Daze]

Please consider that the millennial kingdom has BORDERS .. borders are to SEPARATE .. and outside that border is where the rest of the world is !!

 

 

Do you see Daniel 2 as a generalization then?

 

You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.  Daniel 2:34-35

[Guest shiloh357]

Last Daze,

 

There will be believers who survive the tribulation, but they will be like we are now.  They will still have sin natures and will have offspring during the millennium and their offspring will have sin natures and yes, they will sin.

 

Only those of us who have our glorified bodies, (OT saints, the church and martyred tribulation saints) will not sin.

[Last Daze]

Last Daze,

 

There will be believers who survive the tribulation, but they will be like we are now.  They will still have sin natures and will have offspring during the millennium and their offspring will have sin natures and yes, they will sin.

 

Only those of us who have our glorified bodies, (OT saints, the church and martyred tribulation saints) will not sin.

 

I'm in total agreement.  You should direct this toward Ezra.

[Serving]

 

Please consider that the millennial kingdom has BORDERS .. borders are to SEPARATE .. and outside that border is where the rest of the world is !!

 

 

Do you see Daniel 2 as a generalization then?

 

You continued looking until a stone was cut out without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.  Daniel 2:34-35

 

 

Hi bro .. the truth which will come from that mountain fills the whole earth ..  that is how the mountain itself metaphorically "fills the whole earth" .. with the truth.

 

Example :  Lets replace truth with culture .. American culture / influence has almost filled the whole earth .. many many many nations dress / act like Americans (even Muslim ones, women wear American / western styles UNDER their robes)  .. same concept .. and very few dare upset / disobey America too .. so in that sense, The American (mountain) has filled the whole earth through it's culture / trends.   

 

The borders are not real bricks & stone borders, but spiritual borders where no evil can cross. (I say this for Ezra)

 

Thanks Daze.

[Sister]

 

Terese,

 

Some more scriptures for you to ponder on Sister.

 

 Isaiah 65:18   But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

  Isaiah 65:19   And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

  Isaiah 65:20   There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

  Isaiah 65:21   And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.

  Isaiah 65:22   They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

  Isaiah 65:23   They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.

  Isaiah 65:24   And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

  Isaiah 65:25   The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.

Why don't you tell us what those scriptures mean to you instead of just posting scripture?

 

Bo peep.

 

Can you do this one thing please?  Have a read for yourself what God is showing us, ....without going to the the internet, and tell me what YOU see in HIS Word alone.

I am curious how you would perceive it by going straight to the source?

[thereselittleflower]

That's nonsense.  My robe is white and spotless because of Jesus.   As  a believer I still sin, but that is not what makes my robe spotted.  The ONLY people who will not go up in the rapture are the unsaved.   Jesus is the one whose blood keeps my robe spotless   Nothing I do has any effect on that.

 

Part of your problem is thinking you have something to do with your salvation.

 

 

Shiloh, do you believe that once saved you cannot lose your salvation, that no matter what you do, your robe remains spotless?