Demographics of those who follow the Word of Faith movment

[missmuffet]

 

I have not seen anything from Billy Graham which indicates he is a false teacher.

 

Bopeep,

 

You might want to do some more research on Billy Graham.  When a fundamentalist Gospel preacher joins hands with the RCC, that is a teaching in itself.  But there are other issues, and since he is not WOF, that would be off topic.

 

As to the WOF adherents, it is extremely sad that they are being duped and don't realize it.  Perhaps many cannot or do not study the Word of God, therefore false teachers take advantage of them.  Those who are low income are looking for a way out, and they are being deceived.

 

I have heard many of Billy Graham's sermons.Show me documentation that Billy Graham is a false teacher.

[FresnoJoe]

WoF

 

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Romans 3:26-28

 

~

 

WoF Teachers

 

“Christ's atonement fully satisfied the demands of God's righteousness, so forgiveness and mercy are guaranteed to those who receive Christ in humble, repentant faith.” ~ John F. MacArthur Jr.

 

If through faith you have placed your eternal destiny in the loving hands of Jesus Christ, you can be sure that God is at work, shaping the events and circumstances of your life into a beautiful mosaic that will reveal His Son to the men and women around you. His hand is on you, as it has been since before you were born. ~ Chuck Smith

 

I've read the last pages of the Bible. It's all going to turn out all right. ~ Billy Graham

 

Let's be a doers! Let's be people of vision! There's much too much to be done for the Lord to be sitting around criticizing. Let's determine to stop being complainers and go forth and do great things for Him! ~ George Whitten

 

“And whatever God asks of you, He will give you the strength to do.” ~ Erwin W. Lutzer

 

“If God has saved you, He has saved you by faith--plus nothing. God is not accepting any kind of good works for salvation. But after you are saved, God talks to you about your works.” ~ J. Vernon McGee

 

Amen~!

[The_Patriot21]

Since when does a question about WOF teachers turn into bashing one of the greatest evangelists of our time? Sure he's not perfect but no one is. Instead of bashing our brothers and sisters in faith we should lift them up to the Lord and extend them the same grace God gives us every day. If one says or does something wrong, point it out in love, and let God convict.

[Guest shiloh357]

Hey MG,

 

Most people don't fall for the WoF thing, but they prey on desperate people who need a miracle and will grasp on to anything that they think will give then hope.

[missmuffet]

Hey MG,

 

Most people don't fall for the WoF thing, but they prey on desperate people who need a miracle and will grasp on to anything that they think will give then hope.

I think if a person is well grounded in the true literal word of God they will not fall for the deception of WOF.

[FresnoJoe]

Since when does a question about WOF teachers turn into bashing one of the greatest evangelists of our time? Sure he's not perfect but no one is. Instead of bashing our brothers and sisters in faith we should lift them up to the Lord and extend them the same grace God gives us every day. If one says or does something wrong, point it out in love, and let God convict.

 

 

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. Romans 14:4

[Guest shiloh357]

There are a lot conspiracies about Billy Graham and misquotes as well.  

 

I have never heard him every preach or teach anything but the pure Gospel.   He has made some mistakes and he is the first one  in line to admit it.   He admits he got too close to president Nixon and let himself get too involved in politics when he was young.   He wishes he had read his Bible more and went to less meetings.  He has some regrets and he readily admits his errors.

 

See, Billy Graham can't be charged with the same crimes an marital infidelity and financial impropriety that plagues other ministries.   So they have to make stuff up or trump things up to be more than what they really are.   It really bugs the media.

 

When Graham and the rest of his team first started, they made a pact that they would never be with a woman  in private other than their wife.   Graham would not even ride in an elevator alone with a woman.

 

His ministry has the highest level of integrity of any ministry in the world.

[Guest shiloh357]

Word of Faith teachers are not servants of a God.   Their gospel is not the Gospel of Christ.  Their "gospel" of health, money, bigger houses, better cars, private jets and Armani suits doesn't really offer anything that you would not want as a unregenerate sinner.  They even admit that their principles will work for anyone saved or not.

[missmuffet]

There are a lot conspiracies about Billy Graham and misquotes as well.  

 

I have never heard him every preach or teach anything but the pure Gospel.   He has made some mistakes and he is the first one  in line to admit it.   He admits he got too close to president Nixon and let himself get too involved in politics when he was young.   He wishes he had read his Bible more and went to less meetings.  He has some regrets and he readily admits his errors.

 

See, Billy Graham can't be charged with the same crimes an marital infidelity and financial impropriety that plagues other ministries.   So they have to make stuff up or trump things up to be more than what they really are.   It really bugs the media.

 

When Graham and the rest of his team first started, they made a pact that they would never be with a woman  in private other than their wife.   Graham would not even ride in an elevator alone with a woman.

 

His ministry has the highest level of integrity of any ministry in the world.

Well if he is the first to admit his mistakes then it sounds like he is doing as a man of God is supposed to do.I once heard him say that when he first began his ministry that him and a couple of his very close men friends who were always with him when he was preaching made a pact with each other to never be alone with a woman besides their wives.There was always two or more of them together.

[MorningGlory]

 

 

When I was in Tulsa, most of the people who were hardcore adherents to the Word of Faith movement were lower income people.  Not sure of any racial demographic, but they were either poor rural or urban dwellers.   

 

The Word of Faith movement preys on the sick and the poor and promises them healing and prosperity which never comes.  It's always carrot on a stick.  "Just keep planting that seed"  they are told.  "Don't give up, your harvest is on its way."    And it never comes, but they still keep chasing what is always out of their reach.  They are still living on beans and bread while the prosperity teachers are eating porterhouse steaks, prime rib and jumbo shrimp.

 

They can regurgitate what Copeland and Hagin and others teach, but they never see the reality play out and I am talking about people who have been at this for 15 or 20 years.  They live in low income housing and trailer parks and stuff.   I hated to see the people come into the grocery store where I worked and barely able to afford their groceries because they spent their money on books and gave a bunch of money away to some ministry  hoping that God was going to send them a windfall/harvest.   Really sad. 

 

But when you are desperate for a miracle, you will grab on to anything.

 

I guess I just don't understand the WOF thing.  It's 'give to get' message shouldn't be believed by ANYONE and yet millions of people believe and 'sow a seed' to these fake ,ministries.  I've watched them on t.v. and the one never ending message is how God wants us to give and be obedient and how THEY (whoever it might be) are 'anointed' and the HS told them this or that.  Still don't see how anyone could fall for that rubbish.  

 

2 Timothy 4:3-4  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fablEx

 

Exactly.