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Interestingly, when Tom Horn and Chris Putnam predicted that the pope would resign people said the same thing about Tom.

Then it turned out that the pope actually resigned at the very time that Tom and Chris said he would but it was not made public for several months....         

 

I might also say that the Y2K thing was a no big deal because the business world spent billions of dollars fixing computer software to not have problems on that  day.               I worked for Xerox at the time and I spent 4 months fixing software on our large printers so they would work.      Anything with a license running on Unix would not have booted.  many of the license programs on Windows would have had the same problem if they had renewable licenses.

People should not say that Y2K was a hoax, it was a very serious problem that we fixed ahead of time.    While our desktop computers would have just had problems with dates, most of the internet running on UNIX would not have connected us to anything

There were already rumors out there about the Pope resigning and it wasn't like Horn and Putman were the only ones making that prediction.

They claimed that we were going to be introduced to extra-terrestrials by this Pope.  No one was saying that, and it obviously didn't happen.   But there was stuff all over the Internet about it.   Sept. 23 was supposed to be our financial downfall.  That didn't happen either.

The Y2K thing was said to be "unfixable"  by the conspiracy theorists.  It wasn't only fixable, but easily fixable.  It wasn't the monstrous problem that conspiracy theorists claimed.

Every time someone makes an ominous prediction the conspiracy people run with it like it is fact.

That's interesting for I was a part of it and I don't remember anyone saying that it wasn't fixable......    there is a time coming when there will be a memory max problem that will not be fixable without going to 128 bit computers.  I don't remember the exact date but it isn't in my lifetime.

Anyway, Tom and Chris have a fairly good insight into what the Vatican is doing concerning UFO's and ET's and I wouldn't go out of my way to put them down.     Quayle might be a different story.  He tends to take things out of the realm of reality at times, but he does do some very good research....   I just can't make the jumps to some of the conclusions of what he finds. I have the same problem with Alex Jones.

 

You also need to consider that Tom will tell you up front that these things are not Bible Prophecy but non biblical prophecies.   The pope resigning was from several Catholic prophecies concerning the popes and church and of all things the September 23'd date from Newton and the Zohar.     It's more like the Catholics are doing things to make these prophecies come to pass if you read Horns work intimately.    I don't know where you came up with the idea that the pope was going to disclose the et's on the 23'rd,  that sounds more like an off handed remark by Quayle in an interview.  Steve does that a lot on Hagman and Hagman and it gets tagged as something Horn says

 


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When I read the scriptures in Joel and I believe in acts about the moon being turned red I get the impression once it turns red, it isnt going to turn back to the current color.  these blood moons are not going to stay red. The signs in the sky of "those days"  will be much more grand, much more awe inspiring.  The book says mens hearts will fail due to whats coming upon the earth.  scripture always has a literal and spiritual meaning.  

The only thing that has me skeptic is the blood moons fall on jewish festivals.  according to John Hagee anyway. I didnt actually look it up because I dont really need to be able to interpret the signs in the sky as something thats to come.  Just look around.  Things are happening today that are praised that 20 years ago would have never been allowed.  Never ever.

I don't have much faith in anything John Hagee says. 


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When I read the scriptures in Joel and I believe in acts about the moon being turned red I get the impression once it turns red, it isnt going to turn back to the current color.  these blood moons are not going to stay red. The signs in the sky of "those days"  will be much more grand, much more awe inspiring.  The book says mens hearts will fail due to whats coming upon the earth.  scripture always has a literal and spiritual meaning.  

The only thing that has me skeptic is the blood moons fall on jewish festivals.  according to John Hagee anyway. I didnt actually look it up because I dont really need to be able to interpret the signs in the sky as something thats to come.  Just look around.  Things are happening today that are praised that 20 years ago would have never been allowed.  Never ever.

I don't have much faith in anything John Hagee says. 

I think that is a wise course of action.


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These were nothing more than natural lunar eclipses that have happened when there was no major world event and no Jewish feasts or anything.   John Hagee, Mark Blitz and Jonathan Cahn needed to sell books and they got the Christian Evangelical world all worked up over nothing.

Everyone of the doomsday guys were predicting that September 23rd of this year was going to be a day we were going to see a major event and nothing happened.  The Pope was supposed announce (according to Tom Horn and Steve Quayle)  that we are not alone and he would produce an alien emissary and all that.  Jonathan Cahn was talking about this month being the financial ruin of our nation and nothing happened.

Nothing these people predict ever comes to pass.  from Y2K to Dec. 21, 2012 and now the whole blood moon thing...  We really need steer clear of these people because nothing they say is true.

I did not investigate, only watched i believe one video of Johathan Cahn, and the little I remember is he was stressing that God gave us the heavens a signs, along with interesting things that have happened in the past when things were observed in the heavens.  The video I saw was not about predicting dates, only that God gives us signs and as a nation we need to repent.  Maybe he went much further at other times I don't know, I certainly agreed with the concept that God can and does give us warnings and we need to heed and repent before its too late.  


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As I have been saying for months, i haven't seen Cahn or Hagee tie this into end time scripture, but only as documented history in the past....   I still haven't seen where all the hype of tying it into actual scripture actually came from....   I don't watch TBN, but it sounds like something they would be into..   Hinn, Copeland and that bunch.

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Nobody's discussing the celestial event that happened yesterday and today, at least no one I aware of.  Yesterday morning as I walked to my car to go to work, I looked up at the night sky amazed at how bright Venus was (I'm an amatuer astronomer),  I then noticed Mercury not far off, but my gaze couldn't get over how bright Venus was.  I asked my wife to check her phone app today to see if that really was Mercury and Venus.  She told me that it was indeed Mercury and Venus but two other planets were in line with Venus making it extra bright.  The two other planets were Jupiter (always extremely bright) and Mars.  It's been awhile since I've seen planets lined up like that.  With the naked eye, it just looked like one very bright planet, instead of three.  She got up this morning to look at it too.

Astronomers speculate if it was a star, planet(s) or comet that led the wise men to our Messiah.  It will be interesting to find out.  I wonder if Jesus can replay historical biblical events for us.  I can't think why He wouldn't.

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Joel 2

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

This is true not as blood, not like blood but into blood the life force that flows thru a body. This should not be mistaken as the lunar eclipse because they are sign's not blood.

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
 
The moon will be covered also with this as the Earth. So when Joel has said it, it is true, it's blood.

 

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