Do we really understand the person of the Holy Spirit?

[*Zion*]

Obviously, understanding God in His entirety is far beyond our capabilities, but that's a big part of why Jesus came to earth, to show us Himself: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  Now Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father, and has sent us the Holy Spirit.  He who lives in us as His vessels - that's if we're born again of water and of the Holy Spirit.  But do we understand Him enough to live the way we are supposed to in obedience to Him?  I'm afraid the answer may be a resounding NO.  But I want to learn!  Thought and encouragements, please.  

[*Zion*]

I do remember typing this out, and my view on things hasn't changed.  But I just want to learn more, is all.  It's good for us to reason and discuss these things out.  Would you like to share your point of view here?

Bless you brother

[missmuffet]

The Holy Spirit is God.We have God in us.

[gdemoss]

The Spirit has the power to kill by speaking truth.

Act 5:5

And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

 

[Esther4:14]

The Holy Spirit is synonymous with wisdom.  In Luke 11:13 He says, "if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your father in Heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him."

James teaches us, "if any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."

Therefore, when we ask for wisdom, we are asking for the Spirit.  When we ask for the Spirit, we are asking for wisdom, and He wants to give this to us generously if we ask Him.  

Therefore, we can learn more about the Spirit from the description of wisdom given in Proverbs.  

In Proverbs 8:22-23 we learn:

"The Lord possesed me at the beginning of His way, before His works of old.  From everlasting I was established, From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth.   

We also know that the Spirit is the water He will give so we will never thirst again (John 4:14).  Therefore, if the Holy Spirit is synonymous with wisdom, than it is when we receive wisdom and understanding that we are satisfied.  

Therefore, we were blessed when He sent us His wisdom to help all who believe until He returns (John14:26).

[gdemoss]

The Holy Spirit is synonymous with wisdom.  In Luke 11:13 He says, "if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your father in Heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him."

James teaches us, "if any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."

Therefore, when we ask for wisdom, we are asking for the Spirit.  When we ask for the Spirit, we are asking for wisdom, and He wants to give this to us generously if we ask Him.  

Therefore, we can learn more about the Spirit from the description of wisdom given in Proverbs.  

In Proverbs 8:22-23 we learn:

"The Lord possesed me at the beginning of His way, before His works of old.  From everlasting I was established, From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth.   

We also know that the Spirit is the water He will give so we will never thirst again (John 4:14).  Therefore, if the Holy Spirit is synonymous with wisdom, than it is when we receive wisdom and understanding that we are satisfied.  

Therefore, we were blessed when He sent us His wisdom to help all who believe until He returns (John14:26).

Excellet truth in these words!  The Spirit of Wisdom IS the Holy Spirit.  Yet the Holy Spirit is Sevenfold.  

Isa 11:2

And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

When we know the Spirit of Power we know the Holy Spirit.  The unmatched Spirit who IS God and who cannot fail. 

Good stuff Esther4:14

[enoob57]

I am becoming aware of the fear that should arise from our own hearts in this fashion:
Luke 12:48
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is
given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have
committed much, of him they will ask the more.
KJV
As some have already said- We have been Given God to be within us... what then is our debt back to God?
Love, Steven
 

[gdemoss]

I am becoming aware of the fear that should arise from our own hearts in this fashion:
Luke 12:48
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is
given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have
committed much, of him they will ask the more.
KJV
As some have already said- We have been Given God to be within us... what then is our debt back to God?
Love, Steven
 

our debt is to present our bodies as a living sacrifice that he may do whatever he wills with us  

[enoob57]

I am becoming aware of the fear that should arise from our own hearts in this fashion:
Luke 12:48
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is
given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have
committed much, of him they will ask the more.
KJV
As some have already said- We have been Given God to be within us... what then is our debt back to God?
Love, Steven
 

our debt is to present our bodies as a living sacrifice that he may do whatever he wills with us  

Upon self examination I have never satisfied this fully in giving of self for within me lies this
Rom 7:21
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
KJV
thus the hatred for the world I am in and the self that keeps this evil present with me... there
is hope in the life when this shall no longer be present and my foundation of faith not yet seen!
1 John 3:2-3
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what
we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him;
for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him
purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
KJV
Love, Steven
 

[Ezra]

 But do we understand Him enough to live the way we are supposed to in obedience to Him?  I'm afraid the answer may be a resounding NO.  But I want to learn!  Thought and encouragements, please.  

It is entirely possible that there is little or no systematic and in-depth teaching in the churches on God the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit has everything to do with the Christian's life from regeneration to ultimate perfection.

Obedience to the Holy Spirit is sanctification (walking in the Spirit), and cannot be separated from obedience to the Word of God (Heb 4:12,13). Obedience to the Holy Spirit is also the willingness to repent when we are shown the errors of our beliefs and our actions.  Unfortunately, when Christians show other Christians their sins and errors (as is required), many of those who should repent fail to do so, and instead resist the Holy Spirit, simply because He is invisible and a mere brother or sister is speaking.  You will note this from time to time on Christian forums (including this one).

Stephen was a man full of faith and full of the Holy Ghost, but when he spoke out the sins of his people, they not only resented his speech, but they killed him for speaking the truth (Acts 6:1-8:3).  So it is today in Christendom.  More often than not, you will find Christians arguing to defend themselves, rather than submitting to the judgment of the Holy Spirit.  But God does not generally render summary execution today (as in the case of Ananias and Sapphira). On the other hand, he warns every Christian thus "TODAY, IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS" (Heb 3:7-4:8).