Bible_Gazer Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 Some believe that God can go to the future . This thought is connected to those who believe in predestination. I think God has a plan for the future and that he can tell about events that will transpire into something. I don't see it that the future actually exist sometime ahead of us, but it exist as of now. What do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 I believe God can transpose time. Why it is so difficult for humans to believe derives from having only our time as a reference. Since we cannot move into the future, it is hard to understand God can. I think you are limiting God to what we are capable of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.69 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 God exists outside of time, so yes the past, present and future are all present to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Agreed. God can not be constrained by His creation. God exists outside of our understanding of time. Just because we are limited to our present, does not mean God is limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 Of course God can go to the future.You can not limit God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 Some believe that God can go to the future . This thought is connected to those who believe in predestination. I think God has a plan for the future and that he can tell about events that will transpire into something. I don't see it that the future actually exist sometime ahead of us, but it exist as of now. What do you think ?You asked my opinion. I have one. And that's all that it is. I cannot site any particular passage in scripture to prove it but I can site verses and chapters to support the possibility that this opinion is true. 1 Corinthians 2, for example, in that the Spirit of God even has to search the mind of God (the Father) in the first place tells me this {may} be true: That before anything other than God existed, all three persons of the Godhead communed in such omniscience things like what we refer to as thought processes were not necessary or needed. I have to blame Greg Koukl for getting me to consider this line of thought. One Sunday on his weekly radio show "Stand to Reason" he asked the question does God think? And after I cycled through my objections and offenses and actually considered the idea, it made sense... before anything other than God existed, of course. My premise / idea / opinion here is that God the Father remained in the state of full omniscience while the Holy Spirit and Jesus partially emptied themselves of this divine trait in order to deal with temporal beings like man and to a degree angels. And that this is how the Father knows all things past-present-future (plus the variables given the limited amount of sovereignty God gave men and angels)... while the Son did not know the day of his return as the Father does (Matthew 24:36) or that the Holy Spirit has to search the mind of the Father (1 Corinthians 2). It is there, in the mind of God the Father that the future exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Reading Daniel proves that the future exists as GOD has consistently given us the future and is one of His proofs that He exists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 So everyone so far has no scriptures about the future existing but assuming God can do anything that we can imagine him to do.Hebrews 6:18 God cannot lieI know that God has his plans for the future and that it will exist someday.But to say that we are of the past is kinda strange to be alive as we are now.I think we are on the same time that God is on up to the minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,379 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think the future " exists ". I think it " will " ( in the future ) . We can be certain of some things that will be via God's promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted October 21, 2015 God created time, so in order to create time God has to be outside of time.Ecclesiastes 3:1515 That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away. Isaiah 55:99 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 46:9-119 remember the former things of old;for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me,10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done,saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose,’11 calling a bird of prey from the east, the man of my counsel from a far country.I have spoken, and I will bring it to pass; I have purposed, and I will do it. Psalm 139:44 Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.I found this analogy about the past, present, future, and God being outside of time. (A good way to explain it.)Time is a hard thing to think about. I have only one analogy that seems to help me. I have thought of it like a rat in a maze. The rat (me) can only see the present...the present corner, choice, hallway, etc. But the creator of the maze takes in the whole maze at once. He knows where I have been, and the result of every path that He may allow me to take, and He sees it all "right now". For Him, the entire maze is now. For me, it is one hallway, one corner, one choice at a time. Old Zimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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