refugees to wear wristbands in cardiff

[junobet]

Just now, other one said:

i did not say that we should not accept immigrants into our midst......    but you said the magic word in that Germany "needed" the work force.....    you don't need these people coming there, and they are going to destroy your economy...   

The right for asylum isn't about our economy. It's about our morals. Sad to see, that I could not convey that to you.

 

That said: Germany does indeed need immigration and those who make it over are in large parts the educated middle class. So I dare say it's not just her upbringing as a Parson's daughter that motivated Mrs. Merkel.

 

[junobet]

Just now, other one said:

not surprised for you really don't understand what's happening across the world today and it's way too complex to delve into in this thread....

But if you really want to get into what's behind it all and learn of the New World Order people and their New Age Religion, I could/would ask you to read a couple of dozen books first....   for with your attitude with this subject, I don't think I could withstand being naughty trying to explain the whole picture to you.....

Sorry mate, I'm not prone to fall for conspiracy theories.

 

[other one]

Just now, junobet said:

The right for asylum isn't about our economy. It's about our morals. Sad to see, that I could not convey that to you.

 

That said: Germany does indeed need immigration and those who make it over are in large parts the educated middle class. So I dare say it's not just her upbringing as a Parson's daughter that motivated Mrs. Merkel.

 

morals don't sacrifice your country to a people that want to destroy you.....   foolishness does.

[junobet]

Just now, other one said:

morals don't sacrifice your country to a people that want to destroy you.....   foolishness does.

As I said: I'm sad that I could not convey to you what my morals and Christian ethics are. Not much has changed since Paul was declared foolish (1 Cor 1:22-24)

love, junobet

[thereselittleflower]

I wish people would stop being so judgmental of others.

[other one]

9 minutes ago, junobet said:

As I said: I'm sad that I could not convey to you what my morals and Christian ethics are. Not much has changed since Paul was declared foolish (1 Cor 1:22-24)

love, junobet

we'll see how your world works out and which of us is wise as time goes along.

[other one]

5 minutes ago, thereselittleflower said:

I wish people would stop being so judgmental of others.

In the case of this thread, I truly wish it didn't matter....

[Guest Thallasa]

55 minutes ago, junobet said:

Sorry mate, I'm not prone to fall for conspiracy theories.

 

Sorry mate is very rude for a start .  I see then you have missed all the long posts  on this subject over the last months and that in your all of a couple of weeks, you have judged all the people here as ignorant , predjudiced ,selfish ,unchristian . For a start most people are not any of those things ,but wary yes, wary of people like you who think that you are being good and kind . I am not at all predjudiced like you , as this word means having an opinion without knowing the facts ,  weighing them up carefully and then making décisions based on all the evidence .

You have come on here and after a few days you are telling people who  live in complicated situations what they must do .I am not afraid of foreigners ,but of  people who despise their own and do not listen to them , overiding their opinons  and when they are attacked , blame them  .

As for your husbands family ,have they ever helped refugees in the U.K. ,do they personally know any foriegners ,I mean invite them home etc. ? Because I have, and did so for many years  and I speak from experience , not from hot air .

It is clear thet we must take in some refugees ,but we must, in the light of some of the terrible acts which have been  commited  be aware and careful  , before the event, not afterwards   . Will you take the responsibilty for any rapes or violent acts against children, which should come from careless vetting .  False and pretentious love  is so easy , as it is without danger  of commitment . If you do not do the charity yourself ,  then you are demanding that others do it for you ; this is not Christian , this is hypocrisy  .

Jesus demands that we are charitable on a personal basis , not on a politically motivated one like this one is .  Are you charitable and giving of yourself , to your neighbour,the one who pays for your charity and the one who has lived beside you for years but that you have ignored when they needed help ?

 

[FresnoJoe]

On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 3:55 PM, junobet said:

We should really learn from history....

Beloved, I Am So Glad You Joined Worthy
For Your Comments Do Point Me
Directly To The Holy Bible
And The Creator,
Jesus

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9

Creator Of All Things

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As For History

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11

Past And Present

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 2:22-23

Islam's god Is Greater Than THE LORD

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6

Or So They Pray

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Isaiah 54:5

Everyday

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Psalms 2:6-8

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I Am Blessed

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

Love, Your Brother Joe

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Beloved

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

I Believe The Bible

 

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160

 

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The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable.

 

Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, practice it to be holy.

 

It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you. It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword, and the Christian’s character. Here Paradise is restored, Heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed.

 

CHRIST is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end.

 

It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully.

 

It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment and will be remembered forever.

 

It Involves the highest responsibility, will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

From The Front Of My Gideon New Testament

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎25‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 10:53 PM, junobet said:

 

Christ left us here having shown us that the way of God is love, asking us to follow in His footsteps rather than clinging to our worldly ideas of power, mammon, selfishness, hate and envy. We are to be the light of the world and the salt of the world by emulating Christ’s love for us in our love of neighbor, and clearly that includes love for refugees.

“So be perfect,as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (Mt. 5:48)

 

On ‎26‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 9:19 PM, thereselittleflower said:

I think the words of Jesus and scripture should be paramount:

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  Col 1.16  for in him [the son] all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers—all things have been created through him and for him.
  
  Heb 1.2-3  In these last days [God] has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom he also created the worlds.  3  who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
  
  Mt 5:44  But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,  45  so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
  
  Lu 6:27  But I say to you that listen, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. 29  If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also;
  
  Lu 6:35  But love your enemies, do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked.
  
  Mt 5:39  But I say to you, Do not make use of force against an evil man; but to him who gives you a blow on the right side of your face let the left be turned.  -Bible in Basic English
  
  Lu 6:37  "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;
  
  Lu 12:22  And he said to his disciples, "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat, nor about your body, what you shall put on.
  
  Mt 26:52  Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
  
  Mt 7:12  In everything do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets.
  
  1 Peter 3.8  Finally, all of you, have unity of spirit, sympathy, love of the brethren, a tender heart and a humble mind.   :9  Do not return evil for evil or reviling for reviling; but on the contrary bless, for to this you have been called, that you may obtain a blessing.
  
  Ro 12.17-21   Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  18  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19  Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."  20  No, "if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads." 
  21  Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good .  
  
  1Th 5:15  See that none of you repays evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to all.
  
  Lu 6:42  Or how can you say to your neighbor, ’Friend, let me take out the speck in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye.
  
  Isa 31:1  Alas for those who go down to Egypt for help and who rely on horses, who trust in chariots because they are many and in horsemen because they are very strong, but do not look to the Holy One of Israel or consult the LORD!
  
  Rom 5.8,10  8  But God shows his love for us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.... 10  For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
  
  1 Peter 2.21  For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
  22  He committed no sin; no guile was found on his lips.  23  When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten; but he trusted to him who judges justly.

  Eph 6.12  For our struggle is not against enemies of blood and flesh, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
   

  2 Co 10:4 The weapons with which we fight are not human weapons, but are mighty for God in overthrowing strong fortresses.

  
  John 8.7  But when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
  
  Matt 10.28  And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29  Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father’s will. 30  But even the hairs of your head are all numbered. 31  Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.
  
  Rom 8.37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38  For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor rulers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39  nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

I think it is wrong to harshly judge those who choose their course of action based on scripture such as this.

 

 

 

 

I think first and foremost this is  a political situation which is posing as a refugee one .  If they are refugees why only the West , why was this all planned way back in the 1920's ? Why are we mixing  up God's work with  Caesar's ?  These refugees  have been created to destroy Christian western europe , and anyone who is not malignantly ignorant should know that by now . I am not American and I do not think violence is the answer ,  but when you have 'Chamberlains' who do not see, because they don't want to,  then we have serious problems .

These always pretend to be 'good ' as it makes them feel better, but they are charlatans , ignorant posers who hate God and have plenty of followers ,who like the feel good factor of being kind ,  while their enemy is portrayed as selfish .  It is the 'in thing '  ;  emotional blackmail to get the young engaged , a  divide  and rule tactic  .