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[junobet]

On 29.1.2016 at 11:38 AM, Thallasa said:

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Where did I say that I believe religion should be in the private sphere  ? I did not ,you misunderstand .

So what did you mean when you said "“Jesus demands that we are charitable on a personal basis , not on a politically motivated one like this one is ."?

[junobet]

On 29.1.2016 at 0:55 PM, Thallasa said:

That is right and correct ,for the truth is complicated and when you think you surely have it is a sure sign that you don't .Unless you have all the neccessary information on a subject such as this it is better to wait and learn .  You read websites such as anti -Islam and son for your info and then you assume , you judge . As far as I 'm concerned government is something neccessary in human societies until Christ comes . It is part of an ordered process which is needed for us to learn and  develop or there would be  chaos .  

Until then America is a democracy, and her people decide how it should be run for the benefit of the citizens . You may criticise overseas policy ,but have no right to interfere in internal politics .

On a last note ,Merkel was a communist and an officer in the Stasi ,and she has some things she wishes to keep secret .She works with people to undermine nations within Europe ,and you should look up why God created Babel ,as it is happening again . Do not mistake left wing ,progressist politics for christianity .There is sometimes an over lap ,but it is not the same thing .

Where on earth did you get it from that Merkel was in the Stasi? Not that I’m a fan of hers, but that’s just simply not true. And within the spectrum of German politics her politics are far from “left wing ,progressist politics”. If you regard them as such, I wonder where you’d be in said spectrum.

As for me interfering in US interior policy: I let Americans vote for whatever they like. I only wish the US wouldn’t interfere in other countries interior politics. And I am of the opinion that they should indeed step up in the current refugee crisis. After all it’s their meddling in Iraq’s interior politics that to a large extend is responsible for it: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/159589

[junobet]

1 hour ago, thereselittleflower said:

other one  you are simply showing  extreme bias and prejudice  - to say Christians are guilty of blaspheme simply because they use the Arabic word for God, which IS "Allah" properly is truly bizarre.

God is used in place of a name.  It is used as a direct address.

The word "God"  AS USED IN the English language means this:

• God
  ɡäd/

  noun

   

  1. 1.

     (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

     synonyms:

     the Lord, the Almighty, the Creator, the Maker, the Godhead; More

  2. 2.

     (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

     "a moon god"

     synonyms:

     deity, goddess, divine being, celestial being, divinity, immortal, avatar "sacrifices to appease the gods"

 

In Arabic the word "Allah" means God and is used in exactly the same way.      I have absolutely no problem with Christians using the word Allah for the Christian God, and I would have no problem using it if I were speaking Arabic.   I have attended Eastern Orthodox services in which Arabic, Aramaic, and English were all spoken, and I will tell you the Arabic speaking Church is as ancient as any Church and they have always called God "Allah" and did so for hundreds of years BEFORE Islam even existed.

 

• The Word 'Allah'

• Update:  Those interested in the etymology of the word "Allah" read this nuanced academic article here.See the bottom of p. 37 in particular for an example of pre-Islamic Christian use of the word in an inscription from 6th century Syria.

http://araborthodoxy.blogspot.com/2009/11/word-allah.html

 

Islam does not get to steal a word Christians long used before them and take it away from Christians.

Islam does not have a monopoly on the word "God" or "Allah"

 

The word "Allah" is a CHRISTIAN word and needs to STAY a Christian word.

 

I wish people would stop giving Islam so much power.

 

 

 

 

 

Please call me a nitpicker, but “Allah” isn’t a Christian word, it’s a Semitic one (Arab is a Semitic language). Its etymological equivalent in Hebrew is “Elohim”, a word which OT-scholars will be familiar with.

 

Edited January 30, 2016 by junobet

[ayin jade]

2 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

Allah in Christianity = The Trinity =  God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

There is absolutely nothing blasphemous at all about it.

 

 

To say that the allah of islam is the same as our God IS blasphemy. And too many Christians believe that they are the same. That is what other one is saying. 

[junobet]

31 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

To say that the allah of islam is the same as our God IS blasphemy. And too many Christians believe that they are the same. That is what other one is saying. 

IMHO it is blasphemy to say that there is not just one God.

[angels4u]

1 hour ago, ayin jade said:

To say that the allah of islam is the same as our God IS blasphemy. And too many Christians believe that they are the same. That is what other one is saying. 

Jade, you're right they are believing in the Moon god ( pagan) 

 

[ayin jade]

16 minutes ago, junobet said:

IMHO it is blasphemy to say that there is not just one God.

I have a long day planned, but when I come back, assuming I remember, I will show you the differences and why they are not the same. 

In the meantime, if all gods are the same, then why did the God of the bible get upset over folks worshipping baal and ashter and dagon?

[junobet]

13 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

I have a long day planned, but when I come back, assuming I remember, I will show you the differences and why they are not the same. 

In the meantime, if all gods are the same, then why did the God of the bible get upset over folks worshipping baal and ashter and dagon?

Your last question is interesting, alas, I suspect you won’t like my answer much:

In the oldest texts of the OT we do indeed still find hints that the ancient Israelites weren’t always monotheist, but first believed their tribal God to be just one of many other tribal Gods in the Ugarit pantheon. They even thought their tribal God had a female companion called Asherah. The step towards monotheism was made at around the time of Babylonian exile. I sometimes fear not all of my fellow-Christians have quite made that step yet.

[junobet]

57 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Jade, you're right they are believing in the Moon god ( pagan) 

 

 

It seems to me that you haven't read your own link. Maybe you should.  Love,

junobet

[angels4u]

 I lost  my whole reply...

 Juno ,I deleted the link as it was a confusing explanation  ,I believe this explains  much better who the moongod is ,it is not the same God as Jacob ,it is a pagan god , 

http://jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Islamic%20Muslim/moon_god.htm

Tim 2:5 …4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time.…

Which way do they teach in your church can a person be saved?