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2 hours ago, Butero said:

I know it is possible to change your beliefs.  I was center-right in High School, and now I am about as conservative as Ayn Rand if she had been a Christian.  My problem with Trump is today he still doesn't come across conservative to me.  I didn't see the South Carolina debate, but if he came out as an advocate of Planned Parenthood as BoPeep reported, that is not a conservative.  If he said Obama should make a quick appointment to the Supreme Court, that is not a conservative.  I believe that at best he is a moderate. 

It was already shown that bopeep misquoted him. 

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I think people should listen to me about Trump as well.  His entire adult life he has shown three things consistently... 1.  He cares about nobody but himself.   2.  He has poor judgement 

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Regarding Trump...to me it's not vitally important that he is a Christian...what is important to me is that his life demonstrate his profession. He came out as a Christian... so did Obama. Why did Oba

thereselittleflower
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Who said no one's shuddering over Obama's presidency?  

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1 hour ago, ayin jade said:

It was already shown that bopeep misquoted him. 

Rush Limbaugh brought this up today, and according to him, Trump did uplift some things about Planned Parenthood, but not across the board. 

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16 hours ago, thereselittleflower said:

 

No -  judging his heart would be judging his eternal state with God.

Bopeep didn't judge his eternal state with God.

She discerned whether he is or is not a christian right now.

 

Big difference.

 

By their fruits you shall know them.

 

He shows no fruits of the Spirit.

 

 

They're kind of a same thing either you a christian going to heaven, or your not. It is judging his state of affairs.

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They're kind of a same thing either you a christian going to heaven, or your not. It is judging his state of affairs.

No, because at the moment of death we are not privy to someone's heart.

If what you say is true, then we could never tell someone they need to repent, and then the sharing of the Gospel would be moot.

 

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What I'm saying is true. While your right we don't know where a person is with God-we don't k ow their heart, that much I agree with. But to say someone is not a christian, is judging their eternal salvation. That's not up for us to decide, that's between them and God.

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21 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

What I'm saying is true. While your right we don't know where a person is with God-we don't k ow their heart, that much I agree with. But to say someone is not a christian, is judging their eternal salvation. That's not up for us to decide, that's between them and God.

Then how can you ever tell anyone they need to become a christian, that they need Christ?

Telling someone they need Christ is the same thing as saying they aren't a christian.

 

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The Bible tells us to proclaim the word to all the world....regardless of whether they claim Christ or not. And there is a difference-if someone does not claim Christ, and tells you they are not, then who am I to call them a liar? They told me not the other way around. But when someone says "hey, I'm a christian" and we call them a liar, and say that they are not, that's being judgemental, that's playing God, that's not our place. Sure we can say they arnt acting like it-if their actions don't match it, we can certainly, and should point that out, but if we say that they're obviously NOT a christian, well in reality then we're being the liars because the only three people that know that are them, God, and Satan. So unless you or bopeep are one of those 3 you can't know for sure what is in trumps heart.

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Then how can you ever tell anyone they need to become a christian, that they need Christ?

Telling someone they need Christ is the same thing as saying they aren't a christian.

 

Trump has claimed Christ and has regularly attended a church for decades. Now I know not everyone who attends church is saved, but still bo claimed he wasnt a Christian when he claims he is. That IS judging.

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28 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

Trump has claimed Christ and has regularly attended a church for decades. Now I know not everyone who attends church is saved, but still bo claimed he wasnt a Christian when he claims he is. That IS judging.

Yes.  And God is reading such judgmental comments.  Too many think they are God these days. 

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1 hour ago, ayin jade said:

Trump has claimed Christ and has regularly attended a church for decades. Now I know not everyone who attends church is saved, but still bo claimed he wasnt a Christian when he claims he is. That IS judging.

Where do you get the information Trump attends/has attended church regularly?  

I recall reading multiple articles stating otherwise, even the church he named said he is not a regular.

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