AMERICA IS MYSTERY BABYLON

[Guest Thallasa]

27 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

Thallasa, You are correct I have never been catholic. I do not know all they teach to blind people of Gods hatred of men serving idols. I only know this. When I worked on a Indian reservation in Southern California I attended a christening at the catho lic missionary on the reservation. When I walked through the doors straight  in front of me at the end of the isle was a huge statue. every one else came in, dipped water from brass holders on big posts by the door with statues by each post, walked down the isle and bowed before the statue, made a symbol of the cross on their forehead then entered the row of seats. I just stood there looking at the statues and watching people. I passed the water and went to my seat one of the tribal women told me, "you need to dip your fingers in the water, bow at the alter and make the cross on your forhead and pray "in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit". I said, "There a statue on the alter." she said , that is our patron saint and started to tell me about it. All the scriptures about Gods hatred of Idols were running through my head and His commands not to bow, so I didn't. You can say and believe what you want and ignore the words of God to believe men. But, I wont bow before a statue on an alter in the name Of my Father, His Son or the Holy Spirit for all 3 have come to destroy the idols 

Well since there are four times as many people in the RCC than in the US, you get all kinds . The vast majority in Europe pray to Jesus only, and have no holy water fonts as they call them  ,but I think it is for the newcomers that they allow such things ,and of course they are not praying to idols ,but in the same way children need pictures in books ,some need statues of 'saints' . I must say, that I think God is not phased as He knows we have to grow in the faith ,and become less attached to the material as we grow . (are we growing ?)

Yes, I would like to see less of this ,but to say that all people in the RCC are not Christian and do not pray to , and adore Jesus Christ as the image of the one Holy God , then you are wrong . All ,in whatever denomination even those who go regularly to Church do not truly believe ,do not really have a living Relationship with Him , so  too in this Church  . I no longer am a practising catholic ,and while irritated by certain practices ,they are not why I am not there now  . More , because some think that only through this Church can you be saved  which of course I think is nonsense , and not enough bible study .

But there is no Church which practises perfectly ,as it is not possible , and the hatred which some seem  to reserve for Moslems and Catholics, should be directed to their own inner relationship with God . After all, the Moslems are at least respectful towards  Jesus ,unlike the followers of the Talmud . 

It is all going to end anyway some day, and we  must be careful not to lie , to give false witness . Criticise yes ,but lie no . I don't think too much about others, and what they are doing unless it is forced on me ,and then have to react and this is why I have written this .

 

[simplejeff]

Don't worry about "how many in this city will be saved Rabbi Yahshua ? " 

His answer is "none of your business" to the disciple who asked Him directly.

It doesn't matter if any, or only some, or how many , are saved anywhere.

His directions are the same : "Do what the Father says to do".

No matter how many are saved ,  the written documented instructions in every city on earth that we know of  

are opposed to Yahweh.  So if anyone wants to be saved,  ... ....

they always find themselves opposed.

[simplejeff]

Where did you get that idea ? 

21 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

...... After all, the Moslems are at least respectful towards  Jesus ,unlike the followers of the Talmud . .....

 ((I don't know anyone who thinks the moslems are respectful of Jesus OR of His followers: they HAVE IN WRITING ((and/or in practice)) the opposite, everywhere , like most all religions and countries have always had))

and , second,

who ever said the talmudists were , well,  anything ? ((maybe it was said earlier? ))

[Guest Thallasa]

58 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

religious tolerance has always been the mission of rome and rome has always been intolerant of Jews and Christians. 

You mean all those protestant followers of Calvin and Luther who hated Jews . The Jewish people who follow the Torah are closer to the RCC than any protestant evengelical source, as they are better educated   than the latter who are often an embarrassement to them . Torah Jews, like 'education ' , and are turned off by the sort of ignorance you display here .

One very close friend  to the present pope, is the Rabbi Abraham Skorka , who visited him in Rome and kissed him ,because he hates him . You see ,your ignorance knows no bounds ,as you  need to HATE the RCC no matter what .Some of you hate the 'communists ,the russians ,the moslems ,the roman catholics ,Obama ,and before that the Jews . You just need someone to hate .

  You wrote  'religious tolerance has always been the mission of Rome,and Rome has always been intolerent of Jews and Christians" .   What terrible ignorance you display   .Criminal it is .

Could you please occupy yourself in learning some facts before writing  ?   Could you please get an education ?

4 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Masonry has roots in the Babylonian mystery teachings, but Masonry is not Mystery Babylon itself. Other occult non-Masonic groups also derive from the same doctrinal roots.

The RCC is a dual organization: one part Church of Christ, one part papal. But the papal part has authority over the doctrines of the Christian part, and there's the rub. The Vicar-of-Christ papal office is unbiblical and antichrist.

In the letters to the 7 Churches of Rev. 2-3, when taken as a prophetic overview of the development of Christ's sevenfold Church, the papal church is most commonly identified with the Church of Thyatira:

Rev. 2:19 “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first."

This is the Church that Thallasa identifies with.

Rev. 2:20 “Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into [the] Great Tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works."

This is the papal Mystery Babylon Harlot church, riven throughout its history with sexual immorality and idolatry. Those of the RCC who follow after these latter ways will be the ones burned with fire, as many of the Church's own seers have witnessed.

Well read the Catechism and tell me which is further from the TRUTH of God . RCC or Masonic mystery religion ? Talmud ?. 

[Guest Thallasa]

4 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Masonry has roots in the Babylonian mystery teachings, but Masonry is not Mystery Babylon itself. Other occult non-Masonic groups also derive from the same doctrinal roots.

The RCC is a dual organization: one part Church of Christ, one part papal. But the papal part has authority over the doctrines of the Christian part, and there's the rub. The Vicar-of-Christ papal office is unbiblical and antichrist.

In the letters to the 7 Churches of Rev. 2-3, when taken as a prophetic overview of the development of Christ's sevenfold Church, the papal church is most commonly identified with the Church of Thyatira:

Rev. 2:19 “I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first."

This is the Church that Thallasa identifies with.

Rev. 2:20 “Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into [the] Great Tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works."

This is the papal Mystery Babylon Harlot church, riven throughout its history with sexual immorality and idolatry. Those of the RCC who follow after these latter ways will be the ones burned with fire, as many of the Church's own seers have witnessed.

 Sorry but they are all tangled now . They will all go down who deny Jesus is the Chrsit .

[WilliamL]

23 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

4 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The RCC is a dual organization: one part Church of Christ, one part papal. But the papal part has authority over the doctrines of the Christian part, and there's the rub. The Vicar-of-Christ papal office is unbiblical and antichrist.

Well read the Catechism and tell me which is further from the TRUTH of God . RCC or Masonic mystery religion ? Talmud ?. 

You conspicuously ignored my point about the office of the papacy. When Pope Francis, as the head of a state, a country with boundaries and walls, tells the leaders of nations how they should handle their own national immigration policies, he is committing spiritual 'fornication with the kings of the earth,' per Revelation 17-18.

As to which organization "is further from the TRUTH of God," that is up to God to decide. Which is worse, to have known the Christ, but to have fallen away from his teaching and example, or to have rejected him from the start? Both are sins that will bring the Wrath of God in its time.

What does the RCC Catechism say about the authority of the papal office?

[Guest Thallasa]

5 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

You conspicuously ignored my point about the office of the papacy. When Pope Francis, as the head of a state, a country with boundaries and walls, tells the leaders of nations how they should handle their own national immigration policies, he is committing spiritual 'fornication with the kings of the earth,' per Revelation 17-18.

As to which organization "is further from the TRUTH of God," that is up to God to decide. Which is worse, to have known the Christ, but to have fallen away from his teaching and example, or to have rejected him from the start? Both are sins that will bring the Wrath of God in its time.

What does the RCC Catechism say about the authority of the papal office?

  goodbye .  

[simplejeff]

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13 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

that is up to God to decide.

It is written. ((( He already knew before creating the world.)))

[spiderman1917]

Rather than all the speculation it's pretty obvious what to watch out for.  We all know that the Antichrist will deny Christ and exalt himself above God, and when we see that behavior in anyone , we see the Antichrist in the philosophy and worship of self, money, materialism, and pleasure.   That is the whore of Babylon alive and rampant in every nation.

Rather then point the finger, we simply know, and it is obvious what evil is,  so we will know who the Antichrist is by His philosophies.  No need to be making all these predictions.

[simplejeff]

To all the world it is not obvious at all - remember, they all give in !  ((well, except for the remnant saved by Yahweh for Himself))....

But, yes, avoid speculation.   No need to speculate at all.