Do you believe that judgment is on the horizon, for the usa, and israel ?

[Reinitin]

1 hour ago, SINNERSAVED said:

I will agree with that about America was not a Christian nation, to start with or ever was, but I believe if we trace our presidents and history , that it was based off of mason structure, which seemed to mirror a Christian face, and so we can see that, just as if you look at the synbols, and all the history literature,

it, shows to what the origins, and what is the secret or power behind the curtain today, but many only believe it is Christianity, and for a while I had thought the same thing until I went to see what history was about and the founding fathers

if you want a example, look at the bush family and all the high ranking seats in power that govern us, it is no secret any more, that many came from the same belief and religion, and are part of the crossbones, where did Obama go to college, john Kerry and the list goes on, its interesting to see how it is all one, but what we see is not what it is ?

but we are followers of Christ, for He made the most sense, and it is Gods word that we have scripture, there can be no other way we can have  this type of a understanding and structure, of the bible , that cones from the wisdom of man, it comes from a higher power

no one could noteven enstien think of and have a book like the bible that is prophetic and evidence of history and future, and of findings in science, there is no way, and to place it all on the going to the cross to defeat the evil one, no one could vision, or make this up, and so that's why I strongly believe Gods plan , and His word, and His spirit , is real, and is sound doctrine,

 for why would people and the evil ones work so hard in silencing this following of Jesus and the bible ?

 and we heard it from our president that this is no longer a Christian nation, from one that follows the quran this is all common knowledge , and shown to the people, and He heads the muslim brotherhood, on top of this, so where does America stand now ?

let us be Glad and worship Jesus and the father, and let us not waver, or be tossed, for narrow is the gate, and only a few find it,

come out of her  God tells us, do not be part of her and suffer its judgment.

blessings and peace, God is love,

I think what it comes down to is, will you (me, you any person) be found in Messiah? The world doesn't know Him, our flesh rebels against God. So it comes down to, will you believe and be saved? John said, "they overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony". There is a whole lot of false christianity and false witness, a lot of lost people, lots of injustice, lots of suffering, a lot to fear, lot of evil men conspiring for wealth and power, lot of formulas for salvation, lot of bologna. But, there is one way, one truth and one life. Will we seek till He is found?  

[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

Will we seek till He is found?  

Please clarify.  ((do you mean He is not found ? ))

His Promise, of course, is who-so-ever seeks ME((Yahweh)) will find ME((Yahweh)).

HIS conditions are clear and throughout HIS WORD.

And HIS WORD says we ((in Him)) must boldly declare our oneness with HIM.

((woe to whoever does not)).

i.e. the JOY of HIS SALVATION is ours in HIM TODAY, not some day by and by.

Recently, again , I saw a ministry claiming, contrary to His WORD, that no one can enter HIS KINGDOM here on earth.

In fulfillment of Yahshua's WORD: He spoke to them saying "you have the keys to heaven and refuse to enter; and you do all you can to prevent the little ones who are seeking heaven from finding ." ..."   

 

[Reinitin]

1 hour ago, SINNERSAVED said:

I will agree with that about America was not a Christian nation, to start with or ever was, but I believe if we trace our presidents and history , that it was based off of mason structure, which seemed to mirror a Christian face, and so we can see that, just as if you look at the synbols, and all the history literature,

it, shows to what the origins, and what is the secret or power behind the curtain today, but many only believe it is Christianity, and for a while I had thought the same thing until I went to see what history was about and the founding fathers

if you want a example, look at the bush family and all the high ranking seats in power that govern us, it is no secret any more, that many came from the same belief and religion, and are part of the crossbones, where did Obama go to college, john Kerry and the list goes on, its interesting to see how it is all one, but what we see is not what it is ?

but we are followers of Christ, for He made the most sense, and it is Gods word that we have scripture, there can be no other way we can have  this type of a understanding and structure, of the bible , that cones from the wisdom of man, it comes from a higher power

no one could noteven enstien think of and have a book like the bible that is prophetic and evidence of history and future, and of findings in science, there is no way, and to place it all on the going to the cross to defeat the evil one, no one could vision, or make this up, and so that's why I strongly believe Gods plan , and His word, and His spirit , is real, and is sound doctrine,

 for why would people and the evil ones work so hard in silencing this following of Jesus and the bible ?

 and we heard it from our president that this is no longer a Christian nation, from one that follows the quran this is all common knowledge , and shown to the people, and He heads the muslim brotherhood, on top of this, so where does America stand now ?

let us be Glad and worship Jesus and the father, and let us not waver, or be tossed, for narrow is the gate, and only a few find it,

come out of her  God tells us, do not be part of her and suffer its judgment.

blessings and peace, God is love,

I think what it comes down to is, will you (me, you any person) be found in Messiah? The world doesn't know Him, our flesh rebels against God. So it comes down to, will you believe and be saved? John said, "they overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony". There is a whole lot of false christianity and false witness, a lot of lost people, lots of injustice, lots of suffering, a lot to fear, lot of evil men conspiring for wealth and power, lot of formulas for salvation, lot of bologna. But, there is one way, one truth and one life. Will we seek till He is found.  

[Reinitin]

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Please clarify.  ((do you mean He is not found ? ))

His Promise, of course, is who-so-ever seeks ME((Yahweh)) will find ME((Yahweh)).

HIS conditions are clear and throughout HIS WORD.

And HIS WORD says we ((in Him)) must boldly declare our oneness with HIM.

((woe to whoever does not)).

i.e. the JOY of HIS SALVATION is ours in HIM TODAY, not some day by and by.

Recently, again , I saw a ministry claiming, contrary to His WORD, that no one can enter HIS KINGDOM here on earth.

In fulfillment of Yahshua's WORD: He spoke to them saying "you have the keys to heaven and refuse to enter; and you do all you can to prevent the little ones who are seeking heaven from finding ." ..."   

 

Jeremiah 29-12'Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. 13You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. 14'I will be found by you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will restore your fortunes and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will bring you back to the place from where I sent you into exile.

Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Isaiah 45:19
I have not spoken in secret, from somewhere in a land of darkness; I have not said to Jacob's descendants, 'Seek me in vain.' I, the LORD, speak the truth; I declare what is right.

Amos 5:4
This is what the LORD says to Israel: "Seek me and live;

 

 

[Reinitin]

14 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Please clarify.  ((do you mean He is not found ? ))

His Promise, of course, is who-so-ever seeks ME((Yahweh)) will find ME((Yahweh)).

HIS conditions are clear and throughout HIS WORD.

And HIS WORD says we ((in Him)) must boldly declare our oneness with HIM.

((woe to whoever does not)).

i.e. the JOY of HIS SALVATION is ours in HIM TODAY, not some day by and by.

Recently, again , I saw a ministry claiming, contrary to His WORD, that no one can enter HIS KINGDOM here on earth.

In fulfillment of Yahshua's WORD: He spoke to them saying "you have the keys to heaven and refuse to enter; and you do all you can to prevent the little ones who are seeking heaven from finding ." ..."   

 

What i mean is. Antichrist and false witnesses give formulas to people like do this, stop doing that go to this church here, help that person their. Give money here, light that candle there, bow in front of this statue here, act like gandhi, help like mother theresa, martyr your self like Hunt, get your demons cast out. We gotta seek Christ.

[Reinitin]

22 minutes ago, Reinitin said:

Jeremiah 29-12'Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. 13You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. 14'I will be found by you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will restore your fortunes and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you,' declares the LORD, 'and I will bring you back to the place from where I sent you into exile.

Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

Isaiah 45:19
I have not spoken in secret, from somewhere in a land of darkness; I have not said to Jacob's descendants, 'Seek me in vain.' I, the LORD, speak the truth; I declare what is right.

Amos 5:4
This is what the LORD says to Israel: "Seek me and live;

 

 

Jeff all the choices confused me.. I went to the Lord and found Him. He alway knew were I was. I wasn't lost by Him. I could not find Him in all the false formulas. It was like they had me think I had to get Him to notice me.. pray this do that blah blah. The problem was my blindness I couldn't see Him. When you go to Him to know Him you find Him.

 

[other one]

I don't think any of us have to worry about suffering the wrath of God.....    The Beast will take care of that during that mark and worshiping thing

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I don't think any of us have to worry about suffering the wrath of God.....    The Beast will take care of that during that mark and worshiping thing

Would you go more into detail regarding your post? Why would no one have to worry if they are left down here to suffer God's wrath? How will the beast take care of that?

[simplejeff]

11 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

Would you go more into detail regarding your post? Why would no one have to worry if they are left down here to suffer God's wrath? How will the beast take care of that?

((guessing)) I think they mean the beast will kill us.

As for worry - read about Corrie ten Boom through the holocaust, other survivors and many killed also , who learned JOY in the midst of that.

Also , Foxes book of martyrs. ((in worthy library and online)).  even young girls stood up boldly when men broke down, and they boldly  and joyfully did not draw back from death - they were executed , and did not resist.

Also, same faith as described in Hebrews - men , woman, parents, tortured, killed, children taken brutally killed....

no fear.  no drawing back.  not resisting.  like a lamb sent to the slaughter, like the Messiah Himself, the Savior.

[SINNERSAVED]

brother Jeff, that is straight forward but true, we need to be ready for the times ahead, are not looking bright,

but He who endures until the end , shall be saved,

 many believers or want to be believers  etc,

do not see the cost ! following Jesus, so we need to stay strong , and not fear, for we are headed into great tribulations

 for many have gone before us, and we know , that we will have to face the truth someday , so let us pray , and seek God now while He may be found, and before the door is shut, for the days of Grace will not continue much longer.