Pre trib rapture is fake

[Serving]

11 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

You just asssume that Serving's statements are true?  Really?

What makes you think SS is merely ASSUMING .. more like he has looked into it for himself and agrees .. I am glad he & I agree on this and glad to see from his previous post that he HAS indeed looked into this for himself too .. awesome.

[MorningGlory]

5 minutes ago, Serving said:

What makes you think SS is merely ASSUMING .. more like he has looked into it for himself and agrees .. I am glad he & I agree on this and glad to see from his previous post that he HAS indeed looked into this for himself too .. awesome.

Well you're both wrong but you're entitled to your respective opinions.

[Serving]

 

11 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

No, it makes no sense whatsoever.  Rapture theory does NOT affect one's salvation.

Yes and no.

Yes you would be correct if one who accepts pre trib rapture dies before the tribulation of the SAINTS comes, but you would be wrong if they were alive for the tribulation of the saints period .. because for a fair percentage, THIS would LIKELY kick in :

Matthew 13:20-21 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

And when one is offended .. one turns away.

[7Dove77]

With all that being said,I just know,we do not serve a God of Confussion..Amen

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, Sister said:

MG

SINNERSAVED understood exactly why I quoted that because he is not just looking at one verse, but takes into account everything his spirit has gained from the Word of God.

If we know the wolf is coming, we warn the sheep.  We don't tell the sheep to relax and that everything will be ok.  We warn them to be prepared, by building on a good foundation that wont blow over when that storm comes.  This foundation is the "truth".  A foundation built on lies will crumble their faith when the storm hits.  They wont know what's happening or be prepared, so they will most likely feel that they have been forsaken and fall.  We are just trying to prepare others to be aware in what's coming so you can build up your faith with no hidden surprises and make the right decisions. 

We are coming into those times now as it is at the doors.  In my opinion it is very IMPORTANT for us in this generation to know all truth and know what to expect, because if we fall we wont be in that first resurrection, therefore it is a salvation issue.

If we send someone into captivity (a spiritual prison) where there is no truth, then we ourselves will go into captivity (a spiritual prison). 

The truth shall set you free. The WHOLE truth.

 

 

 

No offense intended, Sister, but none of that is even remotely connected to the timing of the Rapture. 

[MorningGlory]

4 minutes ago, Serving said:

 

Yes and no.

Yes you would be correct if one who accepts pre trib rapture dies before the tribulation of the SAINTS comes, but you would be wrong if they were alive for the tribulation of the saints period .. because for a fair percentage, THIS would LIKELY kick in :

Matthew 13:20-21 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

And when one is offended .. one turns away.

That's a pretty broad assumption based on your opinion.

[Serving]

1 minute ago, MorningGlory said:

Well you're both wrong but you're entitled to your respective opinions.

But MG, these are not opinions, these are documented facts concerning the pre trib rapture SOURCE.

The biblical implications likewise flow from such a truth and are therefore every bit as credible too.

But as you say, you too are entitled to your respective opinion.

Cheers.

[MorningGlory]

46 minutes ago, Serving said:

Sure, search : Francisco Ribera.

So you're throwing that name out and telling us to research for ourselves?  That doesn't provide the source that YOU based your comments on, Serving.

Edited to add:  Okay, I looked up this Jesuit priest and read about his beliefs.  Supposedly he put forth the 'antichrist' idea to protect the papacy.  What?  The A/C is biblical; he is not a man made bogey man nor is he imaginary.  I personally don't believe every anti-Catholic article I read nor do I believe the A/C is the Pope. I also can't link him directly to PreTrib beliefs.  Back to the drawing board.

[SINNERSAVED]

4 minutes ago, Serving said:

 

Yes and no.

Yes you would be correct if one who accepts pre trib rapture dies before the tribulation of the SAINTS comes, but you would be wrong if they were alive for the tribulation of the saints period .. because for a fair percentage, THIS would LIKELY kick in :

Matthew 13:20-21 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

And when one is offended .. one turns away.

when people understand what the Holy scriptures are about then they will get, it , but thank you serving ,for I have done my homework, and its not my fault ,if  they want to dismiss the truth , and attack people, that's just not nice, I don't understand ? why people can be so angry and hateful, , I have spoken the truth ? have I not ? and the fruits of the spirit , many should see what they are ,  

 Matthew 7:16   Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
 Matthew 7:20   Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

James 3:17   But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
blessings to you my brother  Serving                                            shalom

[Serving]

8 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

So you're throwing that name out and tellin us to research for ourselves?  That doesn't provide the source that YOU based your comments on, Serving.

Well I thought since we all have google ... you know?

And if you do a search you will see that even the one's who disagree admit it is true, that it was from a Jesuit Priest initially .. they can't deny it because it was released in a book back then in the 1800's ? pretty sure it was the 1800's anyway.