pre trib rapture is fake true or false

[Keras]

I couldn't vote on this poll, as I do not see any 'rapture to heaven' anywhere in scripture.

The great transformation of the bodies of those found worthy, doesn't happen until after the Great White Throne judgement. Rev 21:6

We are earth creatures, made to live here, God has angels to serve Him in heaven, in the spiritual realm.   Note that the holy people of God are present on earth during the Great Trib. Daniel 7:25, Rev 13:7

[n2thelight]

Don't believe in a rapture period.

Pre Mid or Post

Ask me when we gather to Christ and that would be after the tribulation.

No one goes to Heaven unless they die before Christ returns,in which case they return with Him

[Daniel 11:36]

Not according to scripture

All who have believed, and will believe, will be made immortal just before the coming tribulation period

[Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 5:1-10; 6:12-17; 7:9-17; 11:1; 12:12; 13:6; 17:14; 18:4; 19:1-9]

The same will come to the earth with the Lord here [Revelation 19:14]

These will rule over His millennial kingdom and beyond .... those on thrones [Revelation 20:4] [Revelation 21]

Here is more evidence [1 Corinthians 15: 20-23; 15: 51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4]

If one does not believe in Jesus Christ today you will either end up in the tribulation, or here [Revelation 20:11-15]

This is supported by the scriptures

Those who refute this truth need to reconsider the matter [Matthew 25:1-13]   

 

[Kindle]

7 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Don't believe in a rapture period.

Pre Mid or Post

Ask me when we gather to Christ and that would be after the tribulation.

No one goes to Heaven unless they die before Christ returns,in which case they return with Him

That's what I mean N2. Will we be gathered before or after the tribulation. The bible says after

[Daniel 11:36]

Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 7:9-17; 11:1; 13:6; 17:14; 18:4; 19:1-9; 19:14

[n2thelight]

17 minutes ago, worthy said:

That's what I mean N2. Will we be gathered before or after the tribulation. The bible says after

I agree, most don't understand that there's 2 tribulations, one of satan and of Christ.

We stand against satan, not fly away ,that's the purpose of the gospel armour! 

[Keras]

2 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 7:9-17; 11:1; 13:6; 17:14; 18:4; 19:1-9; 19:14

Presumably your scriptures above are meant to prove a rapture to heaven? If so they all fail miserably.

Rev 3:10 ...I will keep you from the hour of trial....  This does not say we will be removed, but God's protection, as many other prophesies prove.

Rev 4:4..... 24 elders are at God's Throne.....  Nothing here about anyone going to heaven.

Rev 7:0.... The vast multitude are in Jerusalem, on earth..... Proved by verses 1-3.

Rev  11:1.... John measures the temple in Jerusalem..... Do the Gentiles trample the heavenly Temple?

Rev 13:6...the 'beast' blasphemes those who dwell in heaven..... God and His angels are there, not humans.

Rev 17:14....they will wage war on the Lamb.....These are the leaders of the forthcoming One World Govt.

Rev 18:4.....Come out of her, My people..... Get out of 'Babylon', that is: escape before the godless nations are destroyed.

Rev 19:1....a vast multitude in heaven..... We know these are the souls of the martyrs, seen first in Rev 6:9-11, as verse 2 says they thank God for His vengeance on their killers.

Rev 19:14.....the armies of heaven followed Jesus..... The angelic armies accompany Jesus at His Return.

Please come up with a proper exegesis of scripture to prove your beliefs. Just posting verses that do not, makes you look silly.

[Keras]

3 hours ago, worthy said:

That's what I mean N2. Will we be gathered before or after the tribulation. The bible says after

Correct. 1 Thess 4:15-17 says those who remain, those who survive the G.T., will be transported to where Jesus is, in the clouds, then Jerusalem.

Thinking that living Christians go to heaven is illogical and unscriptural. Heaven, in the form of Jesus, comes down to earth and eventually God Himself will dwell with mankind. Rev 21:3

[Daniel 11:36]

"Please come up with a proper exegesis of scripture to prove your beliefs. Just posting verses that do not, makes you look silly."

 

You are the one who looks silly son

The verses that I have posted are correct

Tell me, is Zechariah 14 a prophecy about the future?

 

 

[Kindle]

25 minutes ago, Keras said:

Correct. 1 Thess 4:15-17 says those who remain, those who survive the G.T., will be transported to where Jesus is, in the clouds, then Jerusalem.

Thinking that living Christians go to heaven is illogical and unscriptural. Heaven, in the form of Jesus, comes down to earth and eventually God Himself will dwell with mankind. Rev 21:3

Ok

14 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"Please come up with a proper exegesis of scripture to prove your beliefs. Just posting verses that do not, makes you look silly."

 

You are the one who looks silly son

The verses that I have posted are correct

Tell me, is Zechariah 14 a prophecy about the future?

 

 

I don't believe in the word rapture because its no where in scripture. But I do know we will be gathered to Christ after the tribulation. I explain why I think this in another thread I made.