The Remnants of Israel

[Sister]

Who are they?

  Isaiah 10:22   For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

 

Are they only of the last generation that exist before Christ's return?  The ones who survive Armageddon?

[gdemoss]

Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut itshort in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

Rom 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

[gdemoss]

Mat 24:22And except those days should be shortened, there should no fleshbe saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Mar 13:20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

[WilliamL]

9 hours ago, Sister said:

Who are they?

  Isaiah 10:22   For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Are they only of the last generation that exist before Christ's return?  The ones who survive Armageddon?

Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

When the Kingdoms of Israel and later Judah rebelled against the Lord, he "scatter[ed them] among the nations." Lev. 26:33 There they intermarried with all peoples, which is why the Jews who have returned to the Holy Land are of all nationalities and hence appearances.

Jer. 23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

The Lord knows who are his, and has been gathering them and will gather them in his own due time to their folds/abodes, plural.

Zech. 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Some of these will become the 144,000, those that are converted to faith in Jesus when they see his Coming in the clouds of heaven to take up his elect. Others will not be truly converted until the Lord descends much later to earth to save them in the contiguous battles of Jerusalem and Armageddon.

[ARGOSY]

14 hours ago, Sister said:

Are they only of the last generation that exist before Christ's return?  The ones who survive Armageddon?

Its a little more widespread than that.  Current Israel is just a partial regathering, but the true ingathering of Israel will occur on the day of the Lord. Most of those Jews do not have to "survive Armageddon" because they will be thousands of miles away from that war.  

 

[simplejeff]

What a GLORIOUS DAY THAT WILL BE ! 

YAHSHUA HIMSELF, SAVIOR, MESSIAH, CREATOR, KING, RETURNS and SAVES HIS PEOPLE.

[Sister]

13 hours ago, gdemoss said:

Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut itshort in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

Rom 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

Thanks Gary

I presume from those scriptures you gave you are speaking of the last generation only?

[Sister]

7 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

 

 Hi William

 Amos 9:11   In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
 

 

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When the Kingdoms of Israel and later Judah rebelled against the Lord, he "scatter[ed them] among the nations." Lev. 26:33 There they intermarried with all peoples, which is why the Jews who have returned to the Holy Land are of all nationalities and hence appearances.

So they are all Samaritan's then?  Mixed Jews?
 

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Jer. 23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

The Lord knows who are his, and has been gathering them and will gather them in his own due time to their folds/abodes, plural.

 

So the Lord has already brought them into their folds, their tribes?

and this has already happened ?;

 Jeremiah 23:4   And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.

 

What about at the beginning of the chapter, what does this mean?

 Jeremiah 23:1   Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

  Jeremiah 23:2   Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
 

 

[Sister]

William
 

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Zech. 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

 

 

 Zechariah 13:7   Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

This is not speaking of Israel, but about the followers of Christ.

  Zechariah 13:8   And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

So this "LAND", is not the land of Israel, but the Christian "Land".  The sheep are followers of Jesus.  When Jesus departed, the flock scattered.  So in this whole "christian land" from all generations, only a third shall enter the kingdom of God (at the resurrection).  That's not many.

 Matthew 22:14   For many are called, but few are chosen.

  Zechariah 13:9   And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

  Only a third will make it out of the whole Christian "land"

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Some of these will become the 144,000, those that are converted to faith in Jesus when they see his Coming in the clouds of heaven to take up his elect. Others will not be truly converted until the Lord descends much later to earth to save them in the contiguous battles of Jerusalem and Armageddon.

So the 144,000 are converted by faith only when Jesus comes?  What about this scripture?

 Revelation 14:4   These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

Can you see?  They follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes?  They are LOYAL SERVANTS.  They don't just follow at the coming, but have been following him all along.

Edited March 24, 2016 by Sister
Only a third will make it out of the whole Christian "land"

[Sister]

3 hours ago, ARGOSY said:

Its a little more widespread than that.  Current Israel is just a partial regathering, but the true ingathering of Israel will occur on the day of the Lord. Most of those Jews do not have to "survive Armageddon" because they will be thousands of miles away from that war.  

 

Hi Argosy

Yes, the true gathering will occur on the day of the Lord.  This is when mercy is given.  What about the Jews that all lived in past generations that did not get to see the land of milk and honey?  They only saw wars.