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2 hours ago, Butero said:

The only reason for smoking pot would be to get high.  To me, that is sinful.  I also believe it is sinful to smoke cigarettes, as the person is defiling their temple.  They are destroying it by intentionally inhaling smoke into their lungs, when God did not design the lungs for that purpose.  We know the damage smoking does, and to do something like that with that knowledge is sinful, at least to me.  I couldn't smoke anything in good conscience. 

Do you eat pork? How about wear cotton blend clothing? Do you eat cheeseburgers, which combine milk & meat? How about eating unhealthy food, is that a sin? Do ya tassle your garments? How about kill a passover lamb yearly? If you're going to be legalistic about 1 law, you need to keep them all.

And that verse, is not about our personal body- it's about the body of Christ not being defiled


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I don't think there is anything wrong with a church if they choose to have a dress code or not-- many chuches have a prohibition against drinking alcohol--  a church is free to set a code of standards-- if a person doesn't like it they can join another church, or start their own.

on occasion I attend an E Free church which has no dress clothes-- Sunday morning looks like a picnic in the park- my community is fairly stable financially so there is no need to wear raged clothes to church- but some folks choose to do so--- evidently to flaunt their liberty in Christ-- -- Last week 3 (Mature looking ) teenage girls wore "daisy duke" cut offs to church-- I was surprised their dad let them out of the house.

I also am free to chose a dress code and this church does not meet mine so I will not be attending there again


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3 hours ago, Butero said:

The only reason for smoking pot would be to get high.  To me, that is sinful.  I also believe it is sinful to smoke cigarettes, as the person is defiling their temple.  They are destroying it by intentionally inhaling smoke into their lungs, when God did not design the lungs for that purpose.  We know the damage smoking does, and to do something like that with that knowledge is sinful, at least to me.  I couldn't smoke anything in good conscience. 

I am smoking a brisket as we speak.  Oak and Apples chips!  Cant wait to see what it does to my taste buds! :P

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10 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Do you eat pork? How about wear cotton blend clothing? Do you eat cheeseburgers, which combine milk & meat? How about eating unhealthy food, is that a sin? Do ya tassle your garments? How about kill a passover lamb yearly? If you're going to be legalistic about 1 law, you need to keep them all.

And that verse, is not about our personal body- it's about the body of Christ not being defiled

I have addressed the law so many times, it would seem like by now, everyone that challenges me on this kind of topic would know what I am going to say, but nevertheless, here goes.  There are three types of laws in the law of Moses, and not all of them apply today.  Some were only given to the Jews for the express purpose of showing them as a separate people from the idol worshipping gentile nations around them.  They include dietary laws, which is made clear by Peter's vision in Acts, and things like not mixing wool and flax in a single garment.  Those laws never applied to the gentiles because they were to show a separation from the gentiles.  Now that we are included in the plan of salvation under the new covenant, nobody is required to keep them.  The laws of the Levitical Priesthood don't apply because they were temporary, and ended at the cross.  Only the moral laws apply today.  That is why we don't keep them all.  This is about rightly dividing the Word, and by the way, the word legalism or legalistic is found no place in scripture, and the anti-legalist doctrine is a false doctrine taught by the heretical last days churches. 

As for whether it is wrong to eat unhealthy, we were clearly told we can eat anything sold in the market place.  The difference between that and tobacco is that God didn't design our lungs to inhale smoke, but he did create our bodies to eat food.  You can defile your body by things like getting a tattoo, smoking pot, getting drunk, committing fornication, etc. 

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12 hours ago, gerbilgirl said:

I'll start off by saying I can't go to church because churches are inaccessible to me due to my disability.  I have high functioning autism and as a result severe sensory issues.  Music at services is just too loud.  I've tried earplugs, asked to get the sound lowered at services, nothing seems to work.  Anyway, back to the dress code.  That for me too would make church even less accessible.  Dresses are very uncomfortable, they hurt my skin.  I don't like the seams most dresses have.

Like you said, not everyone can afford nice clothes so I don't think the poor should not be allowed in church because of this.  And for people like me, if I could find a quiet church, I would hope they would make an exception to there dress code so I could attend services.  I would of course dress neatly and not take advantage of that part of the dress code.  

If they have a dress code, I would hope they would consider purchasing clothing that is acceptable for those who are poor to wear to church.  That is how I would handle that kind of situation. 

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11 hours ago, Davida said:

I also know my Church for eg are happy to help others who are seeking the Lord in any way , for eg to help provide clothing & a hearing device in your case so you could attend the weekly services. I'd have to think there would be other Churches like this in your area.  My Church also has a bus ministry that picks up anyone who lacks transportation or money for transportation. I believe where there is a will & prayer :) there is always a way!  Btw, our Pastor's wife buys her nice skirts and dresses , also for all her family at a secondhand stores and happily shares that information with the congregation.

That is great your church does that, and I believe that is how they should handle those kind of situations.  You can find very inexpensive clothing at places like Good Will, that would be acceptable in just about any church.  A simple house dress doesn't cost much, and nobody would think anything was wrong with that.  For men, I have seen second hand jackets and dress pants that were very cheap. 


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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Butero said:

As for whether it is wrong to eat unhealthy, we were clearly told we can eat anything sold in the market place.

Weed is all natural... it's sold in a lot of marketplaces.

Do you like rare meat? 

Acts 15:19-20

19 Therefore my judgment is that we do not trouble those who have turned to God from among the nations,
20 but that we write to them that they should abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

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24 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Weed is all natural... it's sold in a lot of marketplaces.

Do you like rare meat? 

Acts 15:19-20

19 Therefore my judgment is that we do not trouble those who have turned to God from among the nations,
20 but that we write to them that they should abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

 

I don't like using the "all natural" angle myself; after all, hemlock is all natural as well.

As for "rare meat": if prices keep going up, it's going to become RARE alright! :laugh:

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4 minutes ago, RobertS said:

 

I don't like using the "all natural" angle myself; after all, hemlock is all natural as well.

As for "rare meat": if prices keep going up, it's going to become RARE alright! :laugh:

Trying to pm you lol

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4 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

Weed is all natural... it's sold in a lot of marketplaces.

Do you like rare meat? 

Acts 15:19-20

19 Therefore my judgment is that we do not trouble those who have turned to God from among the nations,
20 but that we write to them that they should abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

I hate rare meat.  I cook everything very well done and at a restaurant, I order steak extra well done.  People that know me like to poke fun at the fact I eat food that is close to burnt.  In some cases, it is burnt. 

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