other one Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 so what's so wrong with just standing up to the antichrist and let him kill you and go be with God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel 11:36 Posted January 10, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,957 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 295 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) "so what's so wrong with just standing up to the antichrist and let him kill you and go be with God" If you find yourself in the coming tribulation period the devil will entertain you [Revelation 12:12] If so, make certain that you repent before you stand up against him .... then what you say will work for you [Revelation 3:15-19] He will kill you, but then you will have this fate [Revelation 6:9-11; 15:2-3] Edited January 11, 2017 by Daniel 11:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,628 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 18 hours ago, OneLight said: Exactly, and the point I have been trying to make. They are not the same, so there is no way Job would be talking about the bottomless pit. But not the point I made. You said there was no way to see Abraham if the rich man was in the bottomless pit, as if the rich man was an infinite distance away in a state of free fall. We cannot know that. The pit may be bottomless but it's not true an inhabitant must be falling. It could be true. In any case it's not a persuasive argument for the two pits to be different, or the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Diaste said: But not the point I made. You said there was no way to see Abraham if the rich man was in the bottomless pit, as if the rich man was an infinite distance away in a state of free fall. We cannot know that. The pit may be bottomless but it's not true an inhabitant must be falling. It could be true. In any case it's not a persuasive argument for the two pits to be different, or the same. You are right as there is no scripture that states this, but when we use pictures to describe something, these pictures must be accompanied with common sense to make sense. Take the parable once again. Jesus describes the next life in a way we can recognize the settings. Hades is described as a place where one who is in Hades can look across the great divide and see those in Paradise. It is like a picture of two land masses, one perfect and the other evil, separated by a canyon of some sort. When I read about the bottomless pit, I do not see anything but space ... no divide, no paradise, and so on. They are not described in a way one could think they are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 6:22 PM, other one said: i have a couple of old acquaintances who are deep into the New Age Religion stuff that tell anyone that they are setting up the structure for the Antichrist within the workings of the UN. They say that at the present time in the late 90's this was the planned mark. they refer to it as the eternal 666 mark for it is three 6's intertwined with no start or stop. I never knew this ,do we see that on stuff we buy in the store? I know I seen it before but don't remember where.. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 9:06 PM, Diaste said: Just a distraction. The beast rises from the middle eastern deserts, is Arab in descent and Islamic; believes in Sharia and forced religious conversion on pain of death or enslavement. Not gonna be some fancy UN politico with perfect suits and even better hair. Where is your proof that the the beast will come from the Middle East? It could be very well true , but it could be also Europe or anywhere else ,people speculate but really only God knows all those answers .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 21 hours ago, Thallasa said: I do not agree with this .The Beast is a western capitalist system which is already, as we know in place ,and which governs most of the world . Where did you find that information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 20 hours ago, soonsister said: The research to go deeper into that thought would be to find out if other countries national identification number contains 9 digits. Those are my thoughts at least. Every country uses the s**cial s**urity s**tem with an image or numerals or numbers all revealing its source. (according to a few webpages years ago). Why do you think it's been kept basically 'secret' publicly ? You can't go to any country hoping to escape it, already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, angels4u said: I never knew this ,do we see that on stuff we buy in the store? I know I seen it before but don't remember where.. I On the cover sheet of most King James Versions of the Bible . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 11, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 7:06 PM, Diaste said: Just a distraction. The beast rises from the middle eastern deserts, is Arab in descent and Islamic; believes in Sharia and forced religious conversion on pain of death or enslavement. Not gonna be some fancy UN politico with perfect suits and even better hair. No muslim would ever declare himself god..... their basic beliefs would make that not possible, nor would any muslim follow him.... and certainly no Jew or Christain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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