What do you think of Tattoos?

[HAZARD]

21 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I am not sure what your verse here has to do with tattoos. Perhaps you could explain?

Joe posted the verse, I just commented.

[FresnoJoe]

3 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Love you Joe, They are nice tat's., but are they not to remind people of those who bravely lost their lives defending our freedom's?

God says don't do this, even for the dead.

Thanks my friend.

My Brother's~! They Are Still Remembered (And Deeply Grieved)

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. Romans 13:7

Anzac Day Monday 25 April 2016

May They And Their Loved Ones Rest In Peace

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

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Beloved Please Don't Be Offended, For So Far As I'm Concerned
Most Haircuts, Beards And Tattoos Folk Wear Today

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:1

Have Absolutely Nothing To Do With Any Pagan Blood Worship And Burial Rituals

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:27-28

And To Use This As An Excuse To "Stone" One's Brother

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Revelation 1:5

Seems Unwise, At The Very Least

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[FresnoJoe]

52 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I am not sure what your verse here has to do with tattoos. Perhaps you could explain?

Skin

But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7

And Heart

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

If you are asking me personally why I do not agree with you on Leviticus 19:28. The reason is that I think the way the verse is being used here is out of contexts to its meaning. Markings on the skin back in Leviticus day were considers a pagan practice. Done by people whom I assume were pagans.  From what I can tell from the verse, they must of marked their skin for the dead. What is really being forbidden here is  pagan religious customs,including pagan mourning rites. (cuts in your body for the dead) The practice of cutting the face and arms and legs, in time of bereavement was a religion practice done by pagans. The “tattoo” marks described in Leviticus were clearly related to false religious practices. Today a tattoo is a decorative means of self expression and personal decoration. It has nothing to do with religion unless you want it too. So what God is forbidding in Leviticus 19:28. is the customs of the pagan religion. Since tattoos and ear rings today have nothing to do with pagan religion or  linking a person to a religion, I see no harm in them.

Now I am sure you are going to disagree with everything I said here and are going to accuse me of justifying sin and all of that. To that I say this. I am not justifying sin. Because I don't see tattoos as sin. What I am doing is looking at Leviticus 19:28, and with my own understanding; look at it for what I personally believe it to mean. So there you have it. Me answering your question as to why I am disagreeing with you. I hope I have answered in a respectful way.

 

You are right, tattooing was practiced in various nations form earliest times, as well as marking of all kinds with paint and cuttings of the flesh. These were connected with superstition and any disfiguration of the body was an outrage to God and an insult to Him who designed our body originally, hence the law here, in V. 28. I also agree with you that "Today a tattoo is a decorative means of self expression and personal decoration." 

Also, In Deut. 14:1 we read, V. 1, "We are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead."

Many peoples were very violent both I mourning and worship of idols, tearing the hair, scratching and cutting the flesh

I look at it this way, because any disfiguration of the body was an outrage to God and an insult to Him who designed our body originally, hence the law here, in V. 28, Jesus who always  does the will of His Father is like His Father, and Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever," as His Father is, (Heb. 13:8.)
 

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever., as His Father is, that Is why I personally don't agree with it at all. I apologise if I have offended you in anyway.

 

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, FresnoJoe said:

My Brother's~! They Are Still Remembered (And Deeply Grieved)

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. Romans 13:7

Anzac Day Monday 25 April 2016

May They And Their Loved Ones Rest In Peace

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

~

Beloved Please Don't Be Offended, For So Far As I'm Concerned
Most Haircuts, Beards And Tattoos Folk Wear Today

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Romans 8:1

Have Absolutely Nothing To Do With Any Pagan Blood Worship And Burial Rituals

Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:27-28

And To Use This As An Excuse To "Stone" One's Brother

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Revelation 1:5

Seems Unwise, At The Very Least

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8

~

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

We here down under remember them Joe. Remembrance Day

This year, November marks the 98th anniversary of the Armistice which ended the First World War (1914–18). Each year on this day Australians observe one minute’s silence at 11 am, in memory of those who died or suffered in all wars and armed conflicts.

I remember one year, at pre-shift muster, we reminded our entire crew at the start of our shift, all men from pit top to the coal face to again, as we have done for years, to stop work for one minute to observe  ONE MINUTES SILENCE, in memory of those who died and suffered in all wars armed conflicts. All men as always were in agreement.

The new mine manager, a young American university educated know it all, who really knew nothing much about Australian coal miners and returned soldiers, all he was interested in was production at all costs, over hearing this stated; "I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU GUYS, ANYONE WHO STOPS WORK AT 11AM WILL BE IMMEDIATELY SACKED ON THE SPOT."

We turned and said to him, "Well we might just go out the gate now, (6,30am), head off to town to the war memorial, wait till 11am, observe our minutes silence there, and after this we will probably vote go home for the rest of the day. See you tomorrow, if your lucky!

He stuttered, stammered, turned a nice shade of red, lit up a smoke inhaled deeply, coughed, went into his office, and his underling came out and said, Manager ok's the one minutes stop work.!

He was the same manager who pulled down the Australian flag, and raised the Japanese flag on our flag pole at work one morning. When we asked what was the idea of this?  His reply was, "I have a few Japanese buyers arriving this morning to tour the mine."

We advised him, this is Australia, Australian soil, Australian coal, Australian working miners, and for him to promptly raise our flag or he will be showing, his Japanese buyers, and  touring a non-operating empty mine, devoid of all human activity. If the Japanese want to buy our coal that's ok, but their not buying us! It never took him long to learn.

We will remember them.

[LadyKay]

Well I addressed Leviticus 19:28. sine that was the verse that was being brought up the most when talking about tattoos. As for disfiguring the body, I think people who are getting tattoos don't see it as disfiguring. They see it as added beauty to themselves. All in the eye of the beholder I guess. But anyway the same argument about disfiguring could be used against pierced ears. But  people with  pierced ears don't get judged as much as people with  tattoos do. This is a good discussion. I like it.

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

Well I addressed Leviticus 19:28. sine that was the verse that was being brought up the most when talking about tattoos. As for disfiguring the body, I think people who are getting tattoos don't see it as disfiguring. They see it as added beauty to themselves. All in the eye of the beholder I guess. But anyway the same argument about disfiguring could be used against pierced ears. But  people with  pierced ears don't get judged as much as people with  tattoos do. This is a good discussion. I like it.

Thanks for your contribution.

[LeavesSeeds]

There's over a thousand very common wilful sins committed by men and women and children daily.

Pierced ears or piercings might get less notice than tats

  because of public perspective, or even private perspective, regardless of what is right.

Edited June 4, 2016 by LeavesSeeds

[GoldenEagle]

Wow I totally forgot about this thread. 13 Pages later...

Further, this has been a topic of discussion with my wife lately. I think of these 6 M's when thinking about or discussing with people about getting tattoo's:

Modification - the Bible doesn't explicitly forbid tattoos. Some people do this to look more like animals which I find very strange. Our bodies are God's temple (see 1 Cor. 6:19-20)

Motive - why are you wanting or do you have a tattoo? Our primary goal should be to glorify God (See 1 Cor. 10:31)

Message - what are you trying to say with your tattoo? Also keep in mind they are nearly permanent and will be with you for the remainder of your life.

Marketability - will employers offer you employment based on where you have or want to get a tattoo? Could have ink hurt your chances for gainful employment and promotions?

Maybe according to Salary.com:

The biggest takeaways from our survey include a whopping 76% of respondents feel tattoos and piercings hurt an applicant’s chances of being hired during a job interview. And more than one-third – 39% of those surveyed – believe employees with tattoos and piercings reflect poorly on their employers. Furthermore, 42% feel visible tattoos are always inappropriate at work, with 55% reporting the same thing about body piercings.

Fortunately, only 4% of those with tattoos and piercings report having faced actual discrimination because of their ink and body art.

Money - how much will your tattoo cost or are you putting this on a credit card? Do you have enough to cover your bills? A typical tattoo in the USA costs between $80 to $100 an hour. Few shops work for less than $40 an hour. We are to be good stewards of what God has entrusted to us.

Medical concerns - There have been studies including those done by Mayo Clinic that side effects of tattoos can include allergic reactions, skin infections, other infections, contracting blood borne diseases, and on rare occasions complications with MRI scans.

 

As in all things, we should pray for God to give us wisdom (See James 1:5) and we should attempt to give others grace. Both those who frown on tattoos and those who promote them. Is it a salvation issue? No. Is it an essential doctrine to the faith? No. It's a non-essential not a non-negotiable. I have many friends on both side of the fence on this issue.

I personally do not find them attractive.

As Millennial's and Generation X become managers in the workplace perhaps the stigma about tattoos will change in the workplace. I imagine the same thing will happen as the shift in leadership in Church is affected by generational shifts as well. I think where you live also is a big factor.

Now off to read all your comments.

God bless,
GE

[GoldenEagle]

On 5/27/2016 at 9:44 AM, Jayne said:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 has absolutely nothing to do with the human body.  Paul is talking in that entire chapter about the church, not the physical human form.

"Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are."

Read the whole chapter.  Paul is teaching in 1 Corinthians 3 about the church and corruption IN the church and the destruction of the church from the inside.  He even tells them in chapter 1, if I recall correctly, that things are condoned by that church that even lost Gentiles won't do.

He is reminding them that they as Christ's Church are also the Temple of God. He's very serious that those who purposefully or neglectfully seek to destroy the church from within - God will destroy them. And that's what these people were doing with their sexual immorality, divisiveness, chaos in the worship service, making a mockery of the Lord's Supper, and even "preacher" worship.

This church was in a hot mess.

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Paul DOES speak to the individual about being the Temple of the Holy Spirit in that same letter to the Church at Corinth. Here is what he says to the individual.

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 = "Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body."

• 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 = This is a warning to those would see the church destroyed.
• 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 = This is directions and admonishment given to the individual Christian against sexual immorality which was accepted by that particular church.

Neither of these passages have anything to do with tattoos.

I would agree with you there!

Neither of the passages have anything to do with tattoos. I'm glad someone brought this up. So many times these passages are stripped of their context.

God bless,
GE