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DARRELX i only describe what i saw and yes it doesnt make sense and it is off the wall kinda thing. which is why i have never talked about it. this happened back in the 1990's.

gosh i have just been looking this group up, it took me a while to remember the name however i found it

Emissaries of light

Co-author Nancy Miquelon was involved with the Emissaries from 1971 to 1984, and co-author Barbara Clearbridge was in the group from 1986 to 1993, so 22 years of the cult's development is personally covered here, along with facts about the early years of the Emissaries, and the years since 1993.  Nancy was active in Emissary groups in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana, New York, and Colorado, including living at the U.S./International Headquarters (Sunrise Ranch in Colorado).  Barbara  was active in Washington, Oregon, and British Columbia, including living at the Canadian headquarters (and home of the cult leader) in 100 Mile House, B.C.  She also spent time with groups in Illinois and Indiana.

We have collected a variety of materials and articles about this group.  Feel free to contact us if you would like more information.  We are glad to help you in any way we can.  The more that people know about destructive cults, the less effect these groups can have.  And the more that people know, the more likely it is that members leaving these groups can find the help they need.  Speaking from personal experience, thank you!


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59 minutes ago, DARRELX said:

Being the Devils advocate here, but seeing stuff like that could mean that you could be demon possessed or schizophrenic. 

Or such things could be hallucinations due to any number of things and that person could be completely innocent.

There was a time when people were seeing demons in Cabbage patch dolls simply because some paster said that they were demon possessed

I have been told that Coke-a-Cola is possessed by demons. 

Some things can be brought on by belief and paranoia and people can start seeing demons everywhere and interpret every uncomfortable or bad thing as demonic.

We need to be careful not to attribute everything we see as either from God or the Devil. 

Truth is from God and deception is from Satan. That is the litmus test for me.

Problem is though Darrall,   not everything from the dark side is false or a deception....   and that's part of why it's easy if you are not really on your toes for they will feed you truly remarkable things to get your confidence and then work you over when you least expect it.


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yes i reckon that to be true.  i thimk satan has been busy with me. i explored so many different new age things that i ended up confused and lost and i am still experiencing the impact of this. but what kind of saved me ironically is my lack of trust in anything or anyone. i wouldn't let anything get too deep before i walked away.

i could have been spiritual toast many times i reckon, so maybe God has a plan for me. however the trust issue is as deep as ever to the point where i have isolated myself. so at the mo satan is winning and i need a breakthrough and maybe God did try to breakthrough

about 10 years ago experienced many amazing things that could have been of God but because of my past dabbling' s i could not trust it to be so and so i was left in the dark regarding this and not able to move forwards. so yes the past is still affecting me and yet i still keep trying to have a connection with God and maybe that is why i joined this forum.

its like i am a bridge between two worlds i dont fit in this one and i dont fit into God's


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Heavenly Father, I reach out to you on behalf of mabel and ask you to please reach out and put your touch on her and show her it's really You....

 


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2 hours ago, other one said:

Problem is though Darrall,   not everything from the dark side is false or a deception....   and that's part of why it's easy if you are not really on your toes for they will feed you truly remarkable things to get your confidence and then work you over when you least expect it.

Oh yes Satan mixes lies with the truth. That I am well aware of. 


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1 hour ago, existential mabel said:

about 10 years ago experienced many amazing things that could have been of God but because of my past dabbling' s i could not trust it to be so and so i was left in the dark regarding this and not able to move forwards. so yes the past is still affecting me and yet i still keep trying to have a connection with God and maybe that is why i joined this forum.

It was seeking after spiritual experiences when I was just converted Christianity, that got me into trouble with demons pretending to be God. The safest and smartest thing in my book is to not seek any supernatural or supposed spiritual things but read the Bible every day. If you want to get close to God gain a good knowledge of scripture, get to know His will and obey. There are no quick fixes or fast tracks to getting close to God. Being saved there is but James says.

James  4:8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

 


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Heavenly Father, I reach out to you on behalf of mabel and ask you to please reach out and put your touch on her and show her it's really You....

wow today has been very very strange. this morning i was leaning out the window to refill the bird feeder when i happened to see a grey plump bird a bit like a dove but not. couldnt find out what it was in the end.  it stayed in the garden under the window for an hour or so. the window is very noisy, when i opened the bedroom window to get a closer look it was just standing there like it was tired so i threw some soaked bread out and it didnt flinch. next it flew onto the fence just outside my window and was not all fazed by me looking at it .

other things happened also when i was coming back from the supermarket reg nature quite bizarre really! but very entertaining! i have not been able to access the forum all day until now as i was blocked. but it seems to be working again.

 

so yes thank you for your prayer it certainly did something!


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18 hours ago, DARRELX said:

It was seeking after spiritual experiences when I was just converted Christianity, that got me into trouble with demons pretending to be God. The safest and smartest thing in my book is to not seek any supernatural or supposed spiritual things but read the Bible every day. If you want to get close to God gain a good knowledge of scripture, get to know His will and obey. There are no quick fixes or fast tracks to getting close to God. Being saved there is but James says.

James  4:8  Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

 

yes exactly reg the spiritual experiences...that is why i could not take these experiences in case they were not of God. even when desperately low i know that is not a good idea. yep i read the bible everyday. ah yes no quick fixes but there aint no breakthrough's either. keep on keeping on to the point where i am totally numbed out and that is without medication!


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Believers in Christ Jesus and His Word;

 

 

 

 

Matthew 6:33

"Seek the first the kingdom of the Lord and all those things shall be added onto you " 

Read the bible, the Holy Word Of God and He will tell you who is boss and what satan is about.

 

 

If God is truly with you who can be against you?

 

 

Are you a child of the ONE true KING?

Than claim it and stop giving the dark side any credit.

Romans 8:31

…30 And those He predestined He also called, those He called He also justified, those He justified He also glorified. 31What then shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us! 

32 He who did not spare His own Son but gave up Him for us all, how will He not also, along with Him, freely give us all things?…

 

 

If God is truly with you who can be against you?

 

 

If God who is the maker of all and IS with you and you with Him, 

what are you fearing and worrying about ?

do you really trust God and His word or do you trust more satan and his smoke and mirror lies?

 

 

Satan and his demons where conquered on the cross. IT IS FINISHED. 

look into the WORD of God instead of believing hearsay from snake oil salesmen.

 

 

If God who is the maker of all is with you and you with Him, what are you fearing about?

 

 

Satan and his demons where conquered on the cross. IT IS FINISHED.

 

 

Get to know and read the Word of God.

It is Gods voice to you.

Your healing balm

Your protection ( we are to put on His armor EVERYDAY and our sword of the spirit is the Word Of God) Eph.5

 

 

 

 

Who do you trust more God or satan  when you talk or if thoughts come to you about devilish things?

 

 

For sure God warns us about satan, his fall and his deception.

Please for your sake read Ephesians 6., read the Word of God and fill your mind with the Word of God.

There you will find peace HIS peace.

 

 

With God, with the Blood atonement of our redeemer Christ Jesus,

 satan has no real hold over us, unless you believe satan more than God.

 

 

Satan is the greatest Ponzi scheme that ever existed.

If you place your bets and money in him you will surely loose.

 

 

Seekers of Christ Jesus, Seek Gods kingdom and you will find Him and God will live in your hearts.

 Where satan will be unable to enter as God will be dwelling there.

God is our fortress of protection from the enemy

Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety 

He My Refuge and My Fortress 

Psalm 91: 21

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High Will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. 

2I will say to the LORD, "My refuge and my fortress, My God, in whom I trust!" 

3For it is He who delivers you from the snare of the trapper And from the deadly pestilence.… 

 

 

Blessed Be the Lord, My Rock 

Psalm 144:2

1 A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;

My lovingkindness and my fortress, My stronghold and my deliverer, My shield and He in whom I take refuge,Who subdues my people under me.

 

 

 

The Lord is also my shepherd

Psalm 23

John 10

 

 

And about illnesses mental or other, most if not all have a spiritual root component that is not from God but from our fallen nature.

 

 

Satans first access to us is through our mind, through our thoughts, if we entertain these thoughts we are opening the door and allowing satan to roam about and try to cause us to stumble.

New tests of faith are placed in front of us everyday.

How we handle them determines our mind set.

Virtue that is not tested is not virtue.

 

 

God has given us a way to overcome the battles of the mind.

His name is Christ Jesus and His truth is found in the living bible.

 

And on the subject of mental illness, did one ever go and check some of these mental health web sites?

 

Many people stricken with mental health issues , gravtate to the dark side and speak about the dark side, they keep talking about liking horror movies, dark music, entertaining themselves with witchcraft and other esotherica philosophies, enjoy being cynical and sarcastic and loving the dark side of things, and then they wonder why they are stricken?

Instead of entertaining in our minds with gloomy,thoughts, the bible does say to think on things lovely.

Why? for how we think, so we are.

Philippians 4:8

Think on These Things
7And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable — if anything is excellent or praiseworthy — think on these things. 9Whatever you have learned and received and heard from me, and seen in me, put these things into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.…

 

What are you concentrating on

Gods Word ?

or the ways of the world and all its trappings?

 

Mental health illness like other illnesses has a root cause and much of it comes from thoughts that are contrary or in disobedience to Gods will and Gods word for us.

This disobedience and defiance in choosing to walk away from God can also be passed on through the blood,the genes, from generation unto generation.(the sins of the fathers can be passed on until someone finally repents.)

Until one is willing to accept Gods Word, repent and understand that God is greater than all evil, they will be subject to satans influence..

 

God has defeated satan on the cross at Calvary.

 

As a christian you have protection, you cannot ever become possessed by satan, if you are walking in His light and love and asked Christ to make a home in your heart. The Blood of Christ Jesus covers ALL believers. Christ Jesus shed HIS atoning Blood to cover, heal our sins and sicknesses.

With God we HAVE HIS power to overcome satan the enemy

Hebrews 4:12

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

Our safety net is God and His plan of Mecry and Grace through Christ Jesus our Savior and redeemer from satans hold on us..

You may be oppressed but most assuredly, as you grow in Christ Jesus, as you keep seeking Him and His Word and desire more and more His way of life, those oppressive spirits will leave you, because you become fuller and fuller with Gods Word living in you and darkness and Gods light cannot habitate together.

Either you are covered by the redeeming Blood of Christ or you are not.

what do you truly believe?

 

It is what you believe that will see you through or make you crumble

 

God cannot dwell in a house that is filled with evil or where darkness resides.

Read 1 John chapter 1

If you truly repent to God and ask Him into your heart, He will come and make a home in your heart.

 

Beware of people even hear on this site who say they are christian but what they say does not align with the Word of God.

 

Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in the LORD with all your heart,

And lean not on your own understanding;

In all your ways acknowledge Him,

And He shall direct your paths.

 

Oh! And about people being evil with dark eyes?

Yes perhaps,

the devil comes in all disguises, he can also be very charming, very pretty or handsome.

Jeffrey Dalmer, Charlie Manson, Adolf Hitler, they all had the palest and bluest of eyes.

 

I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes. Psalms 118:5-9

 

 

This world is full of trickery, 

It tries you hypnotize you through suggestibility, placing you in a trance to their suggestions.

Remember satans access into destroying us always come through the mind.

Gods Love and Power comes through to the heart and can delivers us from the damages that satan tried to instill in us in order to fully corrupt us and destroy us.

Our recovery from satan is a matter of our faith.

To whom do we place our faith, faithfulness into?

God or the enemy satan? 

 

 

 

 

Don’t be deceived folks, the actions of people speak louder than their hearsay, looks or promises.

Trust always Gods word before trusting man/women, because man/woman are fallible ,but God WORD if Eternal and does not change.

Align all thoughts with the WORD of GOD,and if ANYONE'S thoughts,sayings don't match with the Word Of God, then they are false knowledge blown in the wind and can only spread  by the influence of the prince of the air witch is satan himself, Satan is the greatest con artist whose only purpose is to steal, kill and destroy.

 

 

 

 

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DARRELX loving the picture of the moggie!! just looks a lot like my cat did bless his furry pads!

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      As we continue this series the next obvious sign of the resurrection in the Old Testament is the sign of Isaac and Abraham.

      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

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