Outer Darkness

[JTC]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

At any rate, the preceding is well above my pay grade and subject to close scrutiny. 

And now you know why I gave up trying to figure it out.

But what you said agrees with some of the things people who had NDE's have said. I think at least 1 said he thought he could hear colors. There's also statements in 1 of the ancient books of Enoch that indicate he saw and heard things he couldn't even describe. He tried but his descriptions don't make sense. I guess we have to call it glorious bc we don't have a better word for it.

[Enoch2021]

On 4/13/2017 at 7:48 AM, Dennis1209 said:

It's proven time is not the same for everyone, therefor it's a physical property. In other words, my passage of time is not the same as yours. 

Proved??  Please, show the Experiment...?

If 'TIME' is a 'Physical Property' then post its:  Chemical Formula/Structure, Charge, Mass, Momentum, or Spin and Location; or if it's Energy, post the meV, Joules/Kcals for 3 O'Clock...?

 

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Photons behave differently depending if they are being observed or not.

It's not only Photons but: All Elementary Particles, Atoms, and Molecules.

And it's not merely OBSERVATION.  You can 'Observe' the Double-Slit Experiment till the cows come home it will make No Difference.

 

The Key is "KNOWLEDGE" of the 'Which-Path' Information...

"The presence of path information anywhere in the universe is sufficient to prohibit any possibility of interference. It is irrelevant whether a future observer might decide to acquire it. The mere possibility is enough."

Xiao-song Ma et al. (2013): Quantum erasure with causally disconnected choice. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 110, pp. 1221-1226. 
The authors PUMMEL Naive Realism and take Local-Causality to the Woodshed (again). 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3557028/

[**Ergo, The LACK of 'which-path Information' anywhere in the Universe is sufficient enough to prohibit any possibility of Wave Function Collapse. i.e. Formation of Matter!!]

In other Words, "Matter"/Light is derivative (The Consequent), Information/Knowledge is Primary (Necessary Antecedent).

 

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At any rate, the preceding is well above my pay grade and subject to close scrutiny.

It's not, you can get there.

 

regards

[Dennis1209]

3 hours ago, Enoch2021 said:

Proved??  Please, show the Experiment...?

If 'TIME' is a 'Physical Property' then post its:  Chemical Formula/Structure, Charge, Mass, Momentum, or Spin and Location; or if it's Energy, post the meV, Joules/Kcals for 3 O'Clock...?

 

It's not only Photons but: All Elementary Particles, Atoms, and Molecules.

And it's not merely OBSERVATION.  You can 'Observe' the Double-Slit Experiment till the cows come home it will make No Difference.

 

The Key is "KNOWLEDGE" of the 'Which-Path' Information...

"The presence of path information anywhere in the universe is sufficient to prohibit any possibility of interference. It is irrelevant whether a future observer might decide to acquire it. The mere possibility is enough."

Xiao-song Ma et al. (2013): Quantum erasure with causally disconnected choice. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 110, pp. 1221-1226. 
The authors PUMMEL Naive Realism and take Local-Causality to the Woodshed (again). 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3557028/

[**Ergo, The LACK of 'which-path Information' anywhere in the Universe is sufficient enough to prohibit any possibility of Wave Function Collapse. i.e. Formation of Matter!!]

In other Words, "Matter"/Light is derivative (The Consequent), Information/Knowledge is Primary (Necessary Antecedent).

 

It's not, you can get there.

 

regards

Don't have to... Einstein figured it out and two jets and two atomic clocks proved it. 

[Enoch2021]

50 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Don't have to... Einstein figured it out and two jets and two atomic clocks proved it. 

ahh, No.  It was a case of Hanlon's Razor...

TIME is a "Conceptual" relationship between 2 motions.  Specifically, it's based on an "Alleged" single rotation of the Earth on it's axis in respect to the Sun (A Day). 
It's a "CONCEPT" (Non-Physical).  It is without Chemical Formula/Structure, no Dimensionality/Orthogonality, and no Direction or Location.  You can't put some in a jar and paint in red.

That which you are using to measure... isn't the thing you're measuring.  

** A Football Field is 100 Yards long but a Football Field isn't Yardsticks!! If I bend a Yardstick...does the Football Field bend also? **

(The Yardsticks are analog to the Clock) -- (The Football Field is analog to TIME)  

 

You also 'forgot' these...

If 'TIME' is a 'Physical Property' then post its:  Chemical Formula/Structure, Charge, Mass, Momentum, or Spin and Location; or if it's Energy, post the: meV, Joules/Kcals for 3 O'Clock...?

 

regards

[JohnD]

Nope.

Time is the progression of the eternal now that enables all things to be in motion.

Otherwise nothing can move since no two things can occupy the same space at the same... time.

Measuring the progression is what confuses folks.

[Enoch2021]

11 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Nope.

So "Na'ahh" is your retort??  You wouldn't happen to be Pre-Law by chance?

 

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Time is the progression of the eternal now that enables all things to be in motion.Otherwise nothing can move since no two things can occupy the same space at the same... time.Measuring the progression is what confuses folks.

You claimed "TIME" can be 'Dilated'...and it was "PROVEN".

Show how a "Concept" (Non-Physical) TIME being Physically Manipulated...?

If not, Phlogiston is more tenable than your position. 

Follow?

 

regards