But The New Tolerance Goes Beyond That And Is Actually Quite Cruel

[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, SkyWriting said:

My ideas are from scripture.  Scary for you to think that I am not you.

You have been abused, and used, by hasatan, as you show the same in your posts, 

you were tempted like Jesus and like all believers and like all the world is,

and like all the world you were and remain deceived,

and like hasatan you always now tempt others with Scripture, the same as hasatan tempted Jesus with Scripture,

trying to get Jesus to sin,   now today trying to get everyone else to sin..

 

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, SkyWriting said:

14 hours ago, OneLight said:

Skywriter, how do you read these verses?

Romans 1:26-32

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.  Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Read it slowly and carefully.

Do you wish me to divide which descriptions apply to me and which apply to you?

I'll make three more categories for Trump, Hillary, and Obama, just for fun.

We don't get to pick and choose what verses applies to us.  They all apply to everyone the same.

1 Timothy 3:16-17

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

It saddens me to think that you have come here just to twist scripture in order to support gay lifestyles.  Apparently you must follow a different Jesus then what is in scripture.  We can see in the very same chapter what we are to suspect, and you are proving this to be true.

But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

[simplejeff]

Ever wonder why some people insist on sinning more and more,  the sin that leads to death, as well as committing and continuing perverse abominations with it ? (always and directly opposed to all Scripture,   trampling underfoot the preciousness,  the BLOOD OF JESUS that would have saved them if they had repented )

Look what is said of the city he lives in :  (sin is rampant)

"Selected as a "Top 10 Destination for Gay Travelers" by N*******t in 20xx and "Surprising Gay-Friendly Destination" by P*******t in its 20xx T***** Awards, ..."

So there's a lot of "company" arm in arm, etc,  on the wide road to destruction with him.....

[SkyWriting]

37 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Your attempt to use "do unto others" as this all-encompassing panacea for sin, if you still want to commit it is at odds with the Gospel that runs throughout the entirety of the Bible.

The Bible explains what "runs all through it" and contrasts to your suggestion:

In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. 
For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets. Enter through the narrow gate. 

Matthew 22:40
All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments."
Romans 13:10
Love does no wrong to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law.
Galatians 5:14
The entire Law is fulfilled in a single decree: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
James 2:8
If you really keep the royal law stated in Scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing well.

 

Edited November 8, 2017 by SkyWriting

[SkyWriting]

6 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Ever wonder why some people insist on sinning more and more,  the sin that leads to death, as well as committing and continuing perverse abominations with it ? (always and directly opposed to all Scripture,   trampling underfoot the preciousness,  the BLOOD OF JESUS that would have saved them if they had repented )

Look what is said of the city he lives in :  (sin is rampant)

"Selected as a "Top 10 Destination for Gay Travelers" by N*******t in 20xx and "Surprising Gay-Friendly Destination" by P*******t in its 20xx T***** Awards, ..."

So there's a lot of "company" arm in arm, etc,  on the wide road to destruction with him.....

I have also lived for two years in one of the most notorious zip codes in the entire country.
If you do your research, you'll find no link to homosexuality. 
How One Milwaukee Zip Code Explains America's Mass Incarceration
Here.  Research it yourself.
See if you can spot any gays.

 

[SkyWriting]

1 hour ago, Cobalt1959 said:

Marriage is not an option now either except in a civil, secular context.  Marriage does not sanctify homosexuality and make it a non-sin.You know that God accepts gay marriage because you have gay neighbors?  I have neighbors that steal from me.  According to your logic, that means my neighbors are not committing a sin.  They have been stealing stuff from us since they moved in two years ago.  According to your post above, they have done it for a while, so that makes the behavior OK.Short answer is, you do not believe homosexuality is wrong.

I will be happy to add your testimony to my point.   Are these people who steal from you, gay?
Logic says that sinners steal, lie, cheat, and are incarcerated more that straight people.
Let's use your logic and decide that most criminals are gay. 

Edited November 8, 2017 by SkyWriting

[SkyWriting]

1 hour ago, Cobalt1959 said:

In other words, you have become "enlightened."  The Golden Rule is useless unless one has a personal relationship with Christ.

Unless you can find that in writing, then non-Christians will also be saved by following 
the leading of the Holy Spirit directly. See if you can find it.

Edited November 8, 2017 by SkyWriting

[SkyWriting]

56 minutes ago, Cobalt1959 said:

You know that God accepts gay marriage because you have gay neighbors? 

I know that gays commit fewer offences to society than straight people
judging by squad cars, ambulances, and 20 years of observations.

The drug dealers, drunks, and punks get most of the attention.

Edited November 8, 2017 by SkyWriting

[SkyWriting]

On 9/24/2016 at 9:30 AM, FresnoJoe said:

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Matthew 24:12 (New International Version)

the new tolerance doesn’t simply mean that you must allow for differences among people or society without castigation or persecution. We are now required by the Orwellian definition of tolerance to positively promote such lifestyles, customs, and deviance (moral or otherwise), almost to the point of the denigration of the majority culture.

We should be tolerant of differences; indeed, we should ever be hospitable to the stranger, allow for religious differences, celebrate the fact that there is freedom of speech and of thought , traces of the formerly Christian culture. This comes from Moses and of course, Jesus and the prophets, and seeped its way into western society.

But the new tolerance goes beyond that and is actually quite cruel.

I see that your love is growing cold.

Romans 13:10

Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

80 Bible verses about Agape Love - Knowing Jesus

[FresnoJoe]

10 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

Thanks!   I'll cover it again.  Sex outside of commitment (marriage) is harmful 
to the human mind. It causes damage to the soul.  Scripture pointed at Homosexuals
as people living and having sex out-side of marriage.  Duh...marriage was not an option.

This is NOT to say that odd marriages didn't exist.....but those that were pointed to were
...orgies, promiscuity, etc.  Entire villages were dedicated to "Free Love" and free sex.
You've read about these.   The sin was multiple partners and sex with no commitment. 

How do I know this?   Many of my neighbors are gay singles or couples. In 20 years,
living within 200 ft of a gay couple, are they on a sin-slippery-slope?
No. Such preachers are deceived. 

 

On 9/24/2016 at 9:30 AM, FresnoJoe said:

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, Matthew 24:12 (New International Version)

the new tolerance doesn’t simply mean that you must allow for differences among people or society without castigation or persecution. We are now required by the Orwellian definition of tolerance to positively promote such lifestyles, customs, and deviance (moral or otherwise), almost to the point of the denigration of the majority culture.

We should be tolerant of differences; indeed, we should ever be hospitable to the stranger, allow for religious differences, celebrate the fact that there is freedom of speech and of thought , traces of the formerly Christian culture. This comes from Moses and of course, Jesus and the prophets, and seeped its way into western society.

But the new tolerance goes beyond that and is actually quite cruel.

For example, take the new toleration of Islam. When there is something toxic about a culture, an inherent flaw in it, to “tolerate it” to the point of admiringly upholding it almost as a model “religion of peace” does no service to the people in it. Our own government practiced this after 9-11-2001.

The Muslim people desperately need to be confronted as human beings with the serious flaws of their own false religion, and 9-11 was an ideal “teachable moment,” but the new tolerance made it impossible to do so on a large-scale. I believe this new non-judgmental tolerance is cruel because it is both artificial and patronizing, and in the long run hurts everyone.

Muslims are human beings too, and in spite of the teachings of Mohammed, they still have a conscience and know very well that what happened on 9-11 was an act of criminal barbarity. As human beings none of them would want that to happen to them or any people they know. But the new tolerance “runs interference” on any real soul-searching.

The rush to justify Islam, and to appease the “hurt feelings” of Muslims in America and elsewhere actually hurts Muslims, because it denies them full responsibility as moral agents. Islam and its adherents have committed 16,000 acts of terror since 9-11, but in the new tolerance, they are mere victims to be pitied—an accommodation that places them on a less-than-human scale, perhaps through fear that is we don’t appease them, they will do us even greater violence.

I have been seeing the destruction caused by this cruel, new tolerance in the area of homosexuality as well. Those who try to point out that homosexuality is a destructive, literally damning way to live, are shut down by the new tolerance as “Haters,” of the homosexual. (I am trying to break the habit of calling them “Gay.” I don’t accept the premise—they aren’t “gay” when they are really miserable; and drug, alcohol, and suicide statistics bear this out.)

But who really “hates” the homosexual, and who truly “loves ” them? Those who practice the new tolerance actually hate the homosexual by condemning them to this “lifestyle,” affirming them in that which is sterile, deadly, filthy, and which debases and kills the conscience. This kind of “acceptance” is deadly.

Those who truly love the homosexuals are the ones who tell them in the name of the Lord that God has something better for them and that they are responsible beings who must give account for this distortion of God’s prophetic institution of marriage, and that change is entirely possible and so is forgiveness.

This new toxic tolerance has even seeped into the evangelical Christian church. There are those who have been embarrassed by the teachings of Jesus and the apostles and prophets of the Bible against Sodomy. They would gain cheap points with the world for being “compassionate” as opposed to those “judgmental religious hypocrites” who dare to speak the truth in love to this generation.

This is how Christians are consistently betraying one another and their Lord by posing as the “tolerant loving Christians,” in contrast to the faithful witnesses to truth in our time.

We must fervently call this heresy out for what it is, a perversion of the biblical teaching of love, which is based on truth and a revelation of the Holy God who created us in His image. Real love isn’t humanistic “tolerance;” it is Holy and upholds the truth of God. Love hates evil and rejoices in the truth.

The ironic thing about the new tolerance is that it only runs one way. Be aware that those who plead for “tolerance” for homosexuals, Islam, atheism, abortion, and pornography will prove to be so intolerable of Christians whom they will one day soon persecute without mercy. http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=14866

 

What Say Ye?

 

2 hours ago, SkyWriting said:

I see that your love is growing cold.

Romans 13:10

Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Thank You

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew 5:43-45

I Am Blessed

~

Love, Your Brother Joe