Jayne Posted October 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2016 I've deleted my original post as the thread as been hijacked by someone spamming his anti-Christmas and anti-Easter message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted October 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2016 52 minutes ago, Jayne said: There is a difference – biblically speaking. One leads to molding our lives to Christ. The other leads to at best, confusion, and at worst – hell. Absolutely. In Scripture "traditions" and "ordinances" are derived from the same Greek word -- paradosis -- which means "that which is handed down". Christ handed down His teachings to the apostles, who handed them down to faithful men, who would hand them down to others. These same teachings were incorporated into the New Testament. So what we read there are in fact the traditions of the apostles. While much of what is written by the Early Church Fathers is beneficial and edifying, there is also much that is man-made doctrine, e.g. the veneration of Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted October 14, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 14, 2016 Quote And what did Jesus have to say about man-made traditions? “Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men, You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. …… thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.” Mark 7:8,9 and 13 " And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 'These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. " Matthew 15:6-9 So, which traditions are the good, true, and Godly ones and which ones are the damning ones. There are many man mad vain traditions that aren't from God. Below is just a couple. Read the links. CHRISTMAS EASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 Quote There are many man mad vain traditions that aren't from God. Below is just a couple. Read the links. CHRISTMAS EASTER 10 hours ago, Yowm said: Without the Incarnation, His death would not save. Without His Resurrection, His death would be meaningless. Nothing demonic or wrong or vain about celebrating His Birth or Resurrection if observed correctly. Did you even read the links, Yowm? If you had, you couldn't possibly have come up with such a substanceless response. Or maybe you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Yowm said: I looked over the links. It reminded me of Jack Chick material. Sorry you found my comments substance-less. I enjoy celebrating Christ's birth and resurrection. I'm free to do that without boogeyman pagan condemnation. He answered them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. But they worship me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ "For you set aside the commandment of God, and hold tightly to the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and you do many other such things." He said to them, "Full well do you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother;’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.’ But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban, that is to say, given to God";’ then you no longer allow him to do anything for his father or his mother, making void the word of God by your tradition, which you have handed down. You do many things like this." (Mar 7:6-13 WEB). No boogeyman pagan condemnation here, Yowm. Just the truth. Maybe you should read the links prayerfully, with consideration for the Lord, and not just look over them. If you don't actually read them, and there not very long, like it says above, you are just looking for ways to hold on to your traditions. Christmas and Easter are just two of many traditions that are clearly not of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Simon Hall said: Did you even read the links, Yowm? If you had, you couldn't possibly have come up with such a substanceless response. Or maybe you could. This thread is already beginning to get personal, starting with this response. This is a technical violation of the Terms of Service, but, since you are a new member and are probably not used to our moderation here, I will issue you a single warning on this here, as opposed to removing you from the thread and issuing you a point. Please remember, everyone, debate the subject, not the person. Someone is allowed to disagree with you without being insulted. God bless, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walla299 Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,165 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1,727 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1961 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Wow . . . isn't a little early for the "Halloween/Christmas/Easter/(insert other holidays here) Is Evil" threads? Its only mid-October after all . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 18 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Steve_S said: This thread is already beginning to get personal, starting with this response. This is a technical violation of the Terms of Service, but, since you are a new member and are probably not used to our moderation here, I will issue you a single warning on this here, as opposed to removing you from the thread and issuing you a point. Please remember, everyone, debate the subject, not the person. Someone is allowed to disagree with you without being insulted. God bless, Steve Thanks for the heads up Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 15, 2016 I question what denomination this person follows due to the list of, what they call, false teachers. http://www.thepathoftruth.com/false-teachers/ Abrahams, Sondra Adeboye, Enoch Aïvanhov, Mikhaël Akintunde, Yinka Albiston, John Allen, A.A Alley, John Amirault, Gary Appel, Gene Ardah, Arjguna Arguinzoni, Sonny Armstrong, Herbert Arnecillo, Fidel Jr. Arnott, John & Carol Austin-Sparks, Theodore Bacchiocchi, Samuele Barrett, Kevin Baxter, Mary Beeson, Willie Begg, Alistair Bent, Wayne Bentley, Todd Berrigan, Daniel Bevere, John Bilezikian, Gilbert Bilyeu, Sammy Blackaby, Henry Blackwood, Rick Blue, Debbie Boota, Razia Borum, David Bosch, Anton Boshoff, Jan Botkin, Daniel Box, Paul Boyd, Greg Branham, William Bretherick, Graham Brown, Tom Browne, Rodney H. Brueseke, Joel Calvin, John Cameron, Kirk Camm, Jeffry Campbell, Nicol Carson, D.A. Carter, Jimmy Case, Ryan Challies, Tim Chan, Francis Chavez, Ruben Chew, Ben Chopra, Deepak Chouravong, Ami Claiborne, Shane Clark, John Sr. Cohen, Aviad Comfort, Ray Conlon, Carter Copeland, Kenneth Cordeiro, Wayne Cordova, Maria Crews, William Crouch, Paul & Jan Daugherty, Billy Joe Dawn, Marva Deweert, Dick & Joan Dewey, Pam Doctorian, Samuel Doss, Galal Driscoll, Mark Dryer, Scot Du Bois, Clare Duduman, Dumitru Duplantis, Jesse Eby, J. Preston Edwards, Harry Ehrman, Bart Federow, Stuart Ferriol, Arsenio Fields, Roy Fish, Darwin Fox, George Geisler, Dave Gershon, Otto Gilchrist, Rodney Gimenez, Anne Glover, Charlene Graham, Billy Gray, Daryl Groeschel, Craig Grubb, Norman Gruver, Henry Hagee, John Hahn, Scott Ham, Kenneth Hamp, Douglas Hanegraaff, Hank Harfouche, Christian & Robin Hedgecock, Joseph Herzog, David Hetland, Leif Hill, George & Hazel Hill, Steve Hinn, Benny Hockey, Deon Horowitz, Len Houdmann, Michael Houston, Brian Huch, Larry Hufford, Darin Hyles, Jack Jackson, John Paul Jennings, Clayton Johnson, Bill Johnson, Nita Jones, Stephen E. Joshua, T.B. Joyner, Rick Kang, Steve Kapler, Mike Kelly, Russell Earl King, Ed King, Martin Luther King, Patricia Kjos, Berit Kropveld, Mike Kumuyi, W.F. Lake, Kyle Lead, Jane Leckey, Kenneth Lee, Witness Leman, Derek Lindsey, Hal Loewen, Dave Lomax (Linkous), Glynda Lopez, Jeremy Luther, Martin MacArthur, John Maison, Perry Malkmus, George Manning, James David Martin, Walter Mathew, Samuel Maxwell, Jordan McCartney, Bill McDonald, Garry McGhee, Geri McIntyre, Simon McLaren, Brian McPherson, Aimee Merola, Maria Meyer, Joyce Mirasi, Kevin Missler, Chuck Mohler, Dan Moreland, J.P. Müller, George Munroe, Myles Muoka, Lazarus Murdock, Mike Murray, Andrew Murray, Arnold Nee, Watchman Nehale, Victoria Nelson, Tommy Olukoya, Daniel Oritsejafor, Ayo Osteen, Joel Owuor, David Oyakhilome, Chris Oyedepo, David Pack, David Palau, Luis Pearson, Carlton Peters, Ken Pink, Arthur Piper, John Poonen, Zac Pope John Paul II Prankard, Bill Prince, Derek Prince, Joseph Pringle, Phil & Chris Prinzing, Ray Quiboloy, Apollo Ramirez, John Ratliff, Mike Refiner's Fire, The Restrepo, Marino Rima, Samuel Robbins, John Roberts, Oral Robida, Bruce Rosen, Moishe Roth, Sid Rush, Dean Russell, Charles Rutherford, Joseph Ryden, Vassula Samtur, Brian Sarmiento, Carlos Sauder, Tim Schambach, R.W. Schnoebelen, Bill Schuller, Robert Scott, Buff Jr. Servant, David Shaparenko, Gene Sheridan, Dan Sigler, Gary Siljander, Mark Skolfield, Ellis Slick, Matt Smith, Joseph Smith, L. Ray Solbrekken, Max Somers, Bill Søndergaard, Torben Spiro, Ken Spong, John Shelby Spriggs, Gene Spurgeon, Charles H. Staley, Jim Stanley, Charles Stetson, Eric Stevenson, Bill Steyn, Frank Swaggart, Jimmy Sweet, Leonard Sweetman, Dean & Jill Thomas, Al Thurman, Robert Timmons, Tim Tolle, Eckhart Tongol, Joshua Torell, John Travesser, Michael Trimm, Cindy Trumpet Call of God Tutu, Desmond Uda, Joan Vander Toorn, David Veith, Walter Vinson, Mike Viola, Frank Vujicic, Nick Walden, Franklin Walsch, Neale Donald Warnock, George Warren, Rick Washer, Paul Watchman Fellowship Watt, Jim Weinland, Ronald Wells, David F. Welton, Jonathan White, Ellen G. White, James White, Lew White, Paula White, Todd Wiese, Bill Wigglesworth, Smith Wiggs, Evan Wilkerson, David Wimber, John Winfrey, Oprah Wojtyla, Karol Wolpe, David Wommack, Andrew Wood, Stacy & Pamla Worthington, Hall & Joan Yancey, Philip Young, W. Paul Zacharias, Ravi Zambrano, Angelica Zender, Martin Zook, William Zopoula, Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 15, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Wow add my name to that list as well There are some Godly people on it... tisk tisk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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