Something I have to correct

[Sister]

39 minutes ago, A_Hobo said:

(Three Sets of 10 Commandments, Two given to Moses, One Give to Joshua)

1290 Days = Dispensation of Angels = Old Testament (Prophets Ruled the Churches)
1260 Days = Unequally Yolked with Unbelievers = New Testament (Gentiles Rule the Churches)
1260/42 Months = Mark of the Beast (Ensign that Signifies Reconciliation between Man and God, Isaiah 5:26) (Baal Rules the Churches)

Hi A_Hobo

Ok, I'm listening.  What are those 3 sets of 10 commandments you are speaking about?

 

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The Measurements are Heavenly, until you reach the Events of Revelation, then the Measurements are Earthly. 

Are you speaking of these measurements?

 Revelation 21:16   And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

  Revelation 21:17   And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

 

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You are allowed 42 Months for the Tribulation of Revelation,

Agreed

 

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to identify with the Third Set of 10 Commandments God gave to Joshua, Rev. 11:13. 

You lost me here;

Can you please give scripture of the 3rd set of 10 commandments so I can compare it to this;

 Revelation 11:13   And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

 

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Then God invalidates all nations not given a legal right to receive mercy by the 5 months of Star Wormwood the Second Sun............................NO,

I don't understand?  Can you explain it a little more please.
 

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"Mark of the Beast" is not Literal, you will be impacted by the "Sign of Divorce" relatively speaking, as an expression of Joseph the Blessings,

 

I have to disagree here.  You cannot buy or sell without the mark.  There will be no cash, but a RFID chip instead.  Without the chip, you starve.

To take the chip means you get to eat.  To refuse it for Christ's sake, means you love Christ more than your life. We were warned not to trade our birthright like Esau did, because he was hungry that day.

It's that simple.  Don't take the mark of the beast (for Christ's sake) and you will be spared when God pours out his wrath.
 

[Sister]

8 hours ago, Salty said:

To actually know who that Babylon harlot title is applied to one must adhere to witnesses in God's Word, not one's imagination.

In Ezekiel 16, God described the city of Jebus as a harlot before He cleansed her and married her. Jebus would become the city of Jerusalem. Then because of how Israel rebelled against Him in following Baal, God called Jerusalem a harlot once again. So there's the start witness of a city being referred to as a harlot when having fallen to paganism.

In Rev.11:8, we are told the city where God's two witnesses are killed is the city where our Lord Jesus was crucified, and the city is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

In Rev.17 we are shown that the Babylon harlot is a "great city", and that it rules over the many waters. The woman is shown drunken with the blood of the saints and martyrs of Jesus, which points to Matt.23 where Jesus condemned the offspring of those who killed God's prophets in Jerusalem.

The 1st beast of Rev.13:1-2 that has the ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns, carries the whore. The many waters she sits upon are the Rev.17:15 waters of peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.

The woman is arrayed in purple and scarlet, and in Rev.18:7 she says she sits a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. This is a very important Bible witness about the Babylon harlot (a city). It means she is married to a king. Once again the analogy given by God in Ezekiel 16 about His marrying Jerusalem, and it turning into a harlot applies here. The king this Babylon harlot marries, early, which is about JERUSALEM for the end by the way, will be the king who ascends up out of the bottomless pit. In Rev.11 we are even shown Satan ascending out the bottomless pit to kill God's two witnesses in Jerusalem.

So the whole Babylon harlot idea is about Jerusalem in the last days fallen into a state of false worship with the coming Antichrist to that spot to sit in a rebuilt temple and proclaim himself as God.

 

Hi Salty

I like what you said, but are you saying that Jerusalem is the harlot, or that she is serving the harlot? (Babylon the Great).

[Sister]

8 hours ago, Salty said:

WHAT WILL THE TIMES BE LIKE:

In the Book of Daniel, we are shown that false one will cause craft to prosper in his hand. And through peace he shall destroy many. It is our soul that Satan wants to destroy, not just our flesh. The state of your soul is no.1 priority to him. That's why he will use peace, meaning fooling you into bowing to him in place of God.

The coming false one is going to actually try to be a benefactor for everyone on earth, a chicken in every pot. He is going to heal all our woes and problems, pay off all our debts, etc. It will not... be an exact mimic of the old Communist systems. But it will be a mix of Socialism and capitalism. This is why the globalists today have been busy reducing the wealth in the richer western nations and applying to the poorer eastern nations to try and balance everybody up. It's in prep for their coming king of the world (not Jesus).

Our test comes when the pseudo-Christ sets up idol worship in Jerusalem and demands that all bow to the image of the beast. That event is in comparison to the days of Daniel. Some of us will be delivered up to give a Testimony against them by The Holy Spirit. Others will take up arms and try to fight against them. And then other brethren will flee to hide.

During that whole time though (of the latter 3.5 years), God's two witnesses are going to be prophesying against them in Jerusalem, and cannot be harmed until after the 1260 days (Rev.11).

 

Bravo!  Spot on.

[A_Hobo]

1 hour ago, Sister said:

Hi A_Hobo

Ok, I'm listening.  What are those 3 sets of 10 commandments you are speaking about?

EZEKIEL 40:3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, [there was] a man, whose appearance [was] like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.
EZEKIEL 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
EZEKIEL 45:3 And of this measure shalt thou measure the length of five and twenty thousand, and the breadth of ten thousand: and in it shall be the sanctuary [and] the most holy [place].

1. Gate (10 Commandments were Broken, they were of God)
2. House (10 Commandments were given to the Church, they were of the Judgment/Earth)
3. Holy Place (10 Commandments were given to the Children of Promise, for the New Earth/Universe) (Joshua 8:32)

(1 Chronicles 5:1/Job 42:13-16/Matthew 1:17 .... Three Divisions of the 144,000 Only, no more and no less)

1. 144,000 of Reuben (Judges 5:16, Hearing of the Word used to Chastise the Heart)
2. 144,000 of Benjamin (Jeremiah 6:1, Persona of the Word used to Chastise our Person/Holy Conversation and deed in our inner and outer man)
3. 144,000 of Joseph (Amos 5:15, Precepts of the Word used to reprove respect of Principalities, Powers and Persons/Godliness and Cleanliness in all affairs and disputations)

God only has Three Phases of his Gospel's Program ... 2300, 1290, 1335 ... 2000, 1260, 153 ... 200000000, 42 Months, 5 Months ... we are given these figures from the Gospel as Measurements from God of the Gate, House, Holy Place, only when God articulates these figures the Third Time can we remotely assign a literal and tangible value to them in the Gospel's Program.  (There is about 10 Days Deviation between the Orbit and Earth and its Moon, however the information itself is a parable).

1 hour ago, Sister said:

Can you please give scripture of the 3rd set of 10 commandments so I can compare it to this;

 Revelation 11:13   And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

JOSHUA 10:11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, [and] were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: [they were] more which died with hailstones than [they] whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.
JOSHUA 10:11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, [and] were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: [they were] more which died with hailstones than [they] whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.
JOSHUA 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. [Is] not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

BABYLON/Bethhoron, calls down the Temple Stones/UFOs which is Azekah/Antipas (Antiparticle), and this changes the Day Cycle, so that the Moon Sways and the Sun Stands Still.  The Third Sets of 10 Commandments was presented to Joshua, which is accounted in Revelations (When Joseph is finally Numbered with the Tribes).

1 hour ago, Sister said:

I don't understand?  Can you explain it a little more please.

II PETER 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
II PETER 2:16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
II PETER 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
ACTS 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
ACTS 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
ACTS 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

The Apostle is told by the LAMB SLAIN or TEMPLE STONES/SIGN OF DIVORCE ................... To kill the Four Genetic Lines of Genetic Dan, plus all the people and nations not receiving a Sign of Divorce to Solicit Mercy from God to put off the death that will come to all nations and men.

1 hour ago, Sister said:

I have to disagree here.  You cannot buy or sell without the mark.  There will be no cash, but a RFID chip instead.  Without the chip, you starve.

JOSHUA 24:32 And the bones of Joseph, which the children of Israel brought up out of Egypt, buried they in Shechem, in a parcel of ground which Jacob bought of the sons of Hamor the father of Shechem for an hundred pieces of silver: and it became the inheritance of the children of Joseph.
REVELATION 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
EZEKIEL 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
EZEKIEL 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
EZEKIEL 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

NO.......................Revelation talks about "Sodom and Egypt", where the Bones of Joseph were buried.  The Effects of Joseph the Blessings is very much lethal for certain races and peoples, also, it eliminates sin, so that people that prefer Critical Depression, Lower Brain and Body functions will have a difficult time living, and they will like die over time if they continue in their sins..........................Non-Whites take considerable pride in inflicting pain and death on the Antichrist based on their belief that he has no legal right to live at all, and do this continually as a result of their inability to inherit Joseph the Blessings.  The Effect of Joseph the Blessing is too small to impact a significant area of people, this will change soon.  At that time...........................the Antichrist with the power of God will convince many peoples and nations to tolerate these people more than killing at the global level with assisted suicide, until he gives the command to kill at the global level........................all this will be done soon to solicit God's Mercy................at this level we are building to a climax of "Suicide by Antichrist" according to Revelation 11, until we reach the next level soon.  With either the Golden Gates of Jerusalem being disturbed with a great earthquake according to the Hebrew Prophecy or the Mandrid Faultline Alignment of the Solar Eclipse on 8/21/2017 according to "El Dorado", the Mesoamerican Prophecy of the Lords Coming. Love and Blessings.

Edited November 8, 2016 by A_Hobo

[ENOCH2010]

can somebody translate hobo's posts for me

[Salty]

4 hours ago, Sister said:

Hi Salty

I like what you said, but are you saying that Jerusalem is the harlot, or that she is serving the harlot? (Babylon the Great).

Jerusalem actually will be the 'whore' of Rev.17.

Rev.17:1, "I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:"

Rev.17:3, "... and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns."

Rev.17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color..."

Rev.17:5, "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

Rev.17:6, "And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus..."

Rev 17:7, "And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns."

Rev 17:18. "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

 

The structure is very simple. The "woman" is the Babylon harlot, and also the "great whore", and also the "great city". She sits upon a scarlet colored beast, which scarlet is the color of royalty, so that points to a 'kingdom' beast, which is why verse 3 includes the idea of those seven heads and ten horns she sits upon.

The beast that carries her which has seven heads and ten horns, is the 1st beast of Rev.13:1-2, a kingdom beast.

And since the "woman" is a "great city", it cannot be the Church, nor a synagogue, nor a spiritual idea representing paganism, nor anything else except a literal city on earth.

The structure revealed is a WORLD KINGDOM over all peoples and nations on earth, which is the beast of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. The ruling city over that structure will be JERUSALEM. That is where the Antichrist will have his throne (2 Thess.2), as he has always coveted God's place on earth since God proclaimed His love for Jerusalem long ago.

The color of scarlet involves Jerusalem (the "woman") being setup in royal garb, pointing specifically to a monarchy style of government there with a king (i.e., Jerusalem as the ruling city of a kingdom again). And especially remember in Rev.18:7 she says she "sits a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow". That metaphor is very important...

If you sit a queen, and aren't a widow, then it means what? It means you sit upon a queen's throne and you are MARRIED to a... king! So WHAT king will that Babylon harlot be married to?

And I'll say it once again, without understanding Ezekiel 16 with God marrying Jerusalem of old, one will not understand what all God is showing us there with those harlot, no widow, sit a queen (married to a king) type of metaphors. Remember per Rev.21:2 God is coming to marry JERUSALEM (new Jerusalem). So what's going on here with this harlot sitting a queen already married to a king, and Jesus ain't returned yet at that point???

Who is this coming king that is going to marry Jerusalem before Christ does at His coming?

 

 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Salty

[Serving]

I personally think there is much more to the Harlot that needs investigating still.

Yes she has a spiritual source and a spiritual side, but she also has a physical source/body/city/base of operations too.

Note the pattern emerging :

Here is God speaking to Jerusalem .. to that CITY ..

Ezekiel 16

23 And it came to pass after all thy wickedness, (woe, woe unto thee! saith the Lord GOD;)

24 That thou hast also built unto thee an eminent place, and hast made thee an high place in every street.

25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

26 Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

>Egypt.

Ezekiel 16:28 Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.

>Assyria.

Ezekiel 23

14 And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,

15 Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:

16 And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.

17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.

>Babylon.

See a pattern emerging?

Ezekiel 23

31 Thou hast walked in the way of thy sister (Samaria); therefore will I give her cup into thine hand.

32 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou shalt drink of thy sister's cup deep and large: thou shalt be laughed to scorn and had in derision; it containeth much.

33 Thou shalt be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, with the cup of astonishment and desolation, with the cup of thy sister Samaria.

34 Thou shalt even drink it and suck it out, and thou shalt break the sherds thereof, and pluck off thine own breasts: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

This whore has a CUP she drinks from which has made her drunk and desolate, just like the Harlot does too. 

We know that Israel was also present for Media Persia, Grecia and Rome too .. but then she was cast out by God at the hands of the Romans for 2000 odd years .. right .. 

But then all of a sudden, in 1948, Israel emerged from the waters of humanity riding on the back of the ruling powers of the time who carried her to once more take her place amongst the nations .. she rode that beast which enabled her to be settled in the land once more.

This is extremely brief .. nevertheless, note this concerning the HARLOT :

Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Seeing that this Harlot is held accountable for ALL that were slain upon the earth, meaning she MUST be guilty of righteous ABEL'S death too right .. the very FIRST murder seeing "she" is guilty of ALL the blood shed upon the earth .. then HOW can Israel even be considered since Israel was NOT a nation back then at the beginning, right? right?

Well .. this is how :

Matthew 23:35 

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 

36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Seems Israel and the Harlot are guilty of the EXACT SAME charge !!!!!

Coincidence??

I have more yet but will leave it there for now.

God bless.

[Last Daze]

5 hours ago, Serving said:

Seems Israel and the Harlot are guilty of the EXACT SAME charge !!!!!

Interesting thoughts there Serving.  While I personally don't see Mystery Babylon as Jerusalem, I'm open to discussing it.

1. The "harlot" verses you quoted never reference "Jerusalem".  Are you thinking that its more a reference to the authority structure of  Israel / Judah which was based in Jerusalem?
2. Who is Jesus addressing in Matthew 23:35, the scribes and Pharisees within earshot or does it go well beyond that?
3. How would Jerusalem qualify to be the mother of harlots and abominations?  Did Jerusalem give birth to harlotry and ungodliness?

• And on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”  Revelation 17:5

I agree that Israel played the harlot, and that the blood of the righteous is on the heads of the religious hypocrites, but extending that out to name Jerusalem as the end time city

"Babylon" doesn't seem to fit with other prophecies, unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible.

[Salty]

9 hours ago, Serving said:

Seems Israel and the Harlot are guilty of the EXACT SAME charge !!!!!

Coincidence??

I have more yet but will leave it there for now.

God bless.

Very, very few, if any here, understand about the "mystery of iniquity" from God's Word, so I'd be careful how you tread on that here. However, that's what it's about. For the end the children of darkness intend to use Jerusalem as their headquarters for their one-world kingdom with Lucifer at its head. Ever since the days of Cain and Abel this enmity between Satan's workers and God's people has been going on.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Salty

[Last Daze]

12 minutes ago, Salty said:

Very, very few, if any here, understand about the "mystery of iniquity" from God's Word, so I'd be careful how you tread on that here. However, that's what it's about. For the end the children of darkness intend to use Jerusalem as their headquarters for their one-world kingdom with Lucifer at its head. Ever since the days of Cain and Abel this enmity between Satan's workers and God's people has been going on.

I agree with this, however, I don't see Jerusalem as the Babylon described in Rev 17 & 18.  I just can't reconcile that idea with the 10 kings and what happens between them and the little horn of Daniel 7.