Forums inside the 70th week

[Heb 13:8]

I wonder what forums will be like. The eschatology section will certainly dilate a couple centimeters.

 

[Ezra]

4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

I wonder what forums will be like. The eschatology section will certainly dilate a couple centimeters.

There will be no Christian forums during Daniel's 70th week.  

[Heb 13:8]

Rapture after great tribulation Matt 24:29-31.

[ENOCH2010]

All the pre-tribers will take to the streets worse than the hillery voters

[Ezra]

7 hours ago, ENOCH2010 said:

All the pre-tribers will take to the streets worse than the hillery voters

Now you are gratuitously insulting Christian brothers and sisters.

[Ezra]

8 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Rapture after great tribulation Matt 24:29-31.

Sorry, that simply does not work.  Read the book of Revelation.

[Guest Robert]

7 hours ago, ENOCH2010 said:

All the pre-tribers will take to the streets worse than the hillery voters

That's making an assumption that the view of the Pre-Trib rapture is wrong and we are all here for the Tribulation. The debate over the timing of the Rapture continues in other threads here, and most likely will not be resolved until the Lord actually returns to retrieve the Church. But to claim that "All the pre-tribers will take to the streets worse than the hillery voters" is to disregard the character of brothers and sisters in Christ and assume that they would disregard the instructions Scripture gives us on how to accord ourselves, simply because they interpret difficult Scripture differently than you.

I don't look down on Mid and Post-Trib believers for their views, though I have very adamantly disagreed with them (being a "Pre-Tribber" myself). But they are still brethren and deserve respect, and in that light, "Pre-Tribbers" should be shown the same consideration and care as you would want. We are not each others' enemies, nor should we be.

[brakelite]

Would a pre-trib believer recognize the tribulation if it turns out to be a post-trib event? And what if both pre-trib and post-trib believers are wrong about the nature of the tribulation? What if Armageddon isn't a middle east war between Israel and everyone else, but a war with a global apostate ecumenical Christian world in union with the governments of the world (the harlot church/woman riding the beast) against the church? And what if the Antichrist isn't some Assyrian riding a black horse guns levelled at Israel and all things godly, but an apostate church system that sees itself as prophet, priest, and king instead of Christ? With the vast majority on the side of ecumenism and but a very small remnant "keeping the commandments of God and having faith in Jesus" (Revel. 14:12) it would be a repeat of two brothers fighting as in Cain against Abel. And the controversy would be over the same subject...worship. (See Revel. 13).

Todays Christians believe they have it all worked out. No-one gives it a moments consideration that they also could be as deceived as their worldly next-door neighbor. Todays church actually believes that the nation of Israel is Satan's prime target, and that the church is just a secondary object of attention. But Jesus wasn't speaking to Israel when he said "take care that no man deceive you". Far too many have believed in the theories of the Darbys and the Schofields and the La Hayes and Lindsays and the Hunts of this world.

[Heb 13:8]

8 hours ago, Ezra said:

Sorry, that simply does not work.  Read the book of Revelation.

I did read the booke. On ‎11‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 4:38 PM, Heb 13:8 said:

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/189945-defense-of-the-post-trib-pre-wrath-position/?page=43
 

God Bless, - Heb

[Heb 13:8]

Matt 24 & 1 Thess 5 Idiom

The Lord comes as a thief to nonbelievers. Believers will not be surprised on that day. We can actually know the day and the hour from the idiom here. The day of rapture is the Day of the Lord on the Feast of Trumpets, and the hour is at sunset at the twinkling of an eye - http://www.torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp

Matt 24:37-39 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

1 Thess 5:1-10 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober. 7For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. 8But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet. 9For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. 10He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him.

Nonbelievers
1. As it was in the days of Noah
2. people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage
3. and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away
4. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape
5. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night.

Believers
1. Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you
2. But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief
3. You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.
4. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.
5. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet.
6. For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
7. He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him.