QUESTIONS concerning 1Cor.15 & 1Thes.4

[Daniel 11:36]

"And when I say that, it does not violate John 3:13 because John did not ascend himself (the Greek active voice) - he was commanded by God to 'come up here' - and he was immediately transported - but not by his own power."

 

John's spirit was taken up and into the future to be shown the things "hereafter".... not his body

Your argument is moot and you apparently have some other motive for your idea

What is it?

Edited January 9, 2017 by Daniel 11:36

[Marcus O'Reillius]

7 hours ago, douggg said:

Hi Marcus, the person who becomes the Antichrist will have already done so before Revelation 13.    Revelation 13 is focused on the last 42 months of the 7 years.

The person becomes the Antichrist (the King of Israel) at the start of the seven years.    Then he betrays Israel, by claiming to be God.    And the Jews will reject him as continuing as their King.     That ends his time as being the Antichrist, after being their King of Israel for about 3 years 3 months.

He is killed and comes back to life - that is where Revelation 13 picks up.    He is the beast that last 42 months, but not the Antichrist.

No, I disagree wholly, with everything here.

[Marcus O'Reillius]

6 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"The two witnesses testify the first 1260 days to match the 1260 days"

The too witnesses will testify during the beasts's rule over Jerusalem .... the second 1260 days [42 months] [Revelation 11:2-7; 13:1-5] 

I find this laughable.

I stand by my assessment.

[Marcus O'Reillius]

6 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

John's spirit was taken up and into the future to be shown the things "hereafter".... not his body

Your argument is moot and you apparently have some other motive for your idea

What is it?

It doesn't say that. 

So again, spirits have stomachs?

My argument is far from moot, but that won't prevent this argument from going on, forever.

[Daniel 11:36]

I will prevent ..... no more discussion

He was not resurrected to immortality

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Marcus O'Reillius said:

No, I disagree wholly, with everything here.

Then do you disagree with this verse... Christ the King of Israel ?        

Mark 15:32  Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Add the prefix "Anti" to Christ the King of Israel.     The person to become the Antichrist must become the King of Israel.     In Revelation 13, the person is not in the role as the King of Israel, but that of being the 8th king of the fourth empire.  

 

[douggg]

11 hours ago, Marcus O'Reillius said:

he midpoint of the one 'seven' is in the middle.
The abomination of desolation, revealed as a talking image of the beast of a man - the King of the North - set up in the Temple built in the first half of the one 'seven' - acts as a trip wire for God's Rescue of His People: the Elect - us.
This classical hero story sets up all such super-hero tales: the plot is advanced by the evil-doer, and when he has committed his crime - then the hero responds and finishes the job.

I am doubtful that anyone understands what you wrote.

[coheir]

4 minutes ago, douggg said:

I am doubtful that anyone understands what you wrote.

3 1/2

[douggg]

9 minutes ago, coheir said:

3 1/2

So everything in that statement -

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" he midpoint of the one 'seven' is in the middle.
The abomination of desolation, revealed as a talking image of the beast of a man - the King of the North - set up in the Temple built in the first half of the one 'seven' - acts as a trip wire for God's Rescue of His People: the Elect - us.
This classical hero story sets up all such super-hero tales: the plot is advanced by the evil-doer, and when he has committed his crime - then the hero responds and finishes the job." -

    can be summarized as "3 1/2" ?

 

[Marcus O'Reillius]

1 hour ago, douggg said:

Then do you disagree with this verse... Christ the King of Israel ?        

Mark 15:32  Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

Oh course I disagree with what the Jewish leaders of Jesus' Day gave Him for a title because they would not accept the title Pilate gave Him: King of the Jews.

I'm surprised you're making so much of what those who did not believe in Jesus said.  You're really going off track now.
 

1 hour ago, douggg said:

Add the prefix "Anti" to Christ the King of Israel.     The person to become the Antichrist must become the King of Israel.     In Revelation 13, the person is not in the role as the King of Israel, but that of being the 8th king of the fourth empire.  

No, he must be the Wizard of Id, don't you know your comic strips?

I don't have to add "anti-" to the epitaph the Jewish leaders labeled Jesus to find the anti-Christ in Scripture.
I have: the King of the North, the little horn, the man of perdition, the beast of a man, and the ruler (prince) who will come.

The eighth "head" is the dragon-beast of a nation itself.  An Angel tells John that in Revelation.  The sixth "head" of seven is the one who "is" at the end-times.  The seventh is at the end of the Millennium.  (Five have already come and gone.)

But let's play pin-the-tail on the anti-Christ some more... this is fun!  Why we can say it's anyone!