All three Abrahamic Religions will join forces

[RealPresence]

2 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

yeah, that's what I said.  They are demonstrated in the Bible.  Those words do not appear, but the concepts are present in the text.   Judaism is not.

 

Nope, the law and prophets are not Judaism. 

And YOU live in denial.

And HOW is "Judaism' not demonstrated in Scripture yet "Trinity" is?

[hmbld]

3 minutes ago, RealPresence said:

Yes, I know what the Trinity is.
It was defined by the Catholic Church.

Apparently, YOU don't know. 
Answer me this:  
Is Jesus God?
Is the Father God?
Is the Holy Spirit God?

OR - are they ONLY God when spoken of as a Trinity and not as distinct Persons?
 

God the Father is only God when you are not referring to a little g false god the Father. 

[RealPresence]

Just now, shiloh357 said:

Judaism isn't mentioned in the Bible.  The Bible never refers to the religion of ancient Israel has Judaism.   So you are the one with the burden of proof, not us. 

You need to provide the Scripture from the OT that calls that religion Judaism.  That would end the argument.

Then YOU need to provide the Scripture from the NT that calls our religion "Christianity".
You can't have it both ways . . .

[hmbld]

8 minutes ago, RealPresence said:

Judaism didn't start until the Law was given to Moses - period.
None of the Fathers beforehand were considered Jews.

Opinion. Prove it!

[RealPresence]

Just now, hmbld said:

God the Father is only God when you are not referring to a little g false god the Father. 

You didn't fully answer the questions, so I will ask you again:

Is Jesus God?
Is the Father God?
Is the Holy Spirit God?

OR - are they ONLY God when spoken of as a Trinity and not as distinct Persons?

[RealPresence]

1 minute ago, hmbld said:

Opinion. Prove it!

I already HAVE:

The start of Judaism as a religion was at Mount Sinai at the great revelation (1400 BCE). The start of Judaism as a religion was when Hashem (God) gave the ten commandments to the Jewish nation at Mount Sinai. From then on for forty years the Jewish people wandered in the Sinai desserts and Moses taught them the Torah, as he heard it from Hashem (God).
http://www.orthodox-jews.com/origin-of-judaism.html#ixzz4RhBr8gro

[RealPresence]

4 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Nice dodge. You said...

IOW, you seem to believe that one can supposedly worship the Father without believing in the SON (Islam and Christ rejecting Jews).

This is impossible if the Athanasius Creed is what you supposedly hold to.

You can't say "I worship the Father" while rejecting the Son.

Sure it is - if ALL you know is the Father.
Just because the Jews of today have heard about Jesus doesn't means they have a "knowledge" (epignosis) of Him.  Same goes for the Muslims.

Scripture speaks about a "full experiential knowledge" (epignosis) of Christ vs. a "knowledge" (gnosis, oida) of Him.

Edited December 2, 2016 by RealPresence

[Guest shiloh357]

9 minutes ago, RealPresence said:

And YOU live in denial.

And HOW is "Judaism' not demonstrated in Scripture yet "Trinity" is?

Because Judaism is a post biblical religion and Trinity is a biblical concept.  I am not in denial. I simply know history.

[Guest shiloh357]

10 minutes ago, RealPresence said:

Then YOU need to provide the Scripture from the NT that calls our religion "Christianity".
You can't have it both ways . . .

No  I don't.  Christianity is demonstrated in Scripture.  Judaism isn't.

[7thseal]

On 11/29/2016 at 1:39 PM, Big Time said:

Abrahamic religions will actually end up joing forces to fight evil or something.  Where is this coming from?  IS it scriptural?

The Pope met and prayed with an very well respected Islamic leader, and that leader first mentioned Abrahamic  faith as their belief. Wait.. there's more, soon the Catholic Bible was changed to say that all Muslims will enter into heaven because of  Abrahamic faith?  Now we're on to something?