Running Gator

The appearance of evil.

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1 minute ago, Davida said:

It is a teaching by Apostle Paul about how Christians are to live and interact in the world. It applies to all Christians whether they like it or not . As always,  it is up to the individual if they obey the wisdom and follow the Bible's Instructions.

This is the teaching of the Apostle Paul...

12 We ask you, brothers, to respect those who labor among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you, 13 and to esteem them very highly in love because of their work. Be at peace among yourselves.14 And we urge you, brothers, admonish the idle,[c] encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with them all. 15 See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. 19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.

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6 minutes ago, Davida said:

It was not cherry picked , but  you just did not like the application of it being used to object to your views in another thread so you started your own.

In the other thread the OP asked for opinions and I gave mine, but that seemed to upset a lot of people so I started a new thread so as not to derail his. 

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13 minutes ago, Running Gator said:

neither, just highlighting out the inconsistent application of a cherry picked verse out of the bible. 

 

6 minutes ago, Davida said:

It was not cherry picked , but  you just did not like the application of it being used to object to your views in another thread so you started your own.

 

Ah, no wonder, I didn't read the broader context several threads away. LOL

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7 minutes ago, Yowm said:

 

Ah, no wonder, I didn't read the broader context several threads away. LOL

:thumbsup: just trying to fill in any missing gaps ....LOL! :P

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I do not need to make a list. We should have enough discernment to know evil when we see it. The Holy Spirit convicts us of that evil.

1 Thessalonians 2:4

1 Thessalonians 5:22

Romans 13:14

We must abstain from every form of evil as Christians. This is living in God's light. We are not on earth to please man but to please God.

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2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I do not need to make a list. We should have enough discernment to know evil when we see it. The Holy Spirit convicts us of that evil.

1 Thessalonians 2:4

1 Thessalonians 5:22

Romans 13:14

We must abstain from every form of evil as Christians. This is living in God's light. We are not on earth to please man but to please God.

I agree, we need to abstain from every form of evil.  Riding in a car with a member of the opposite gender is not a form of evil.

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2 hours ago, Running Gator said:

I agree, we need to abstain from every form of evil.  Riding in a car with a member of the opposite gender is not a form of evil.

I will not ride alone with a woman, nor should a woman invite shame upon herself and me by doing so. It is not a small thing, but instead an extremely important thing to be very wary as a witness for Christ Jesus. The enemy attempts deceit at all times, even taking joy in mocking the saints, - even for their awareness of his snares.  

It is important to not be parroting Satan's  "Surely God did not mean" ... selling the error and deceit that  appearances mean nothing. Far better to risk the accusation  of being a legalist, than it is to fall into his snare, while thinking surely no  real harm  to my reputation as a witness for Christ Jesus could possibly result from this situation. 

It is better to hold ones self to the standard of a king for example; a king may be required at any moment to make judgement upon the life of another. Or hold to the standard for  elder, or a deacon, than it is to allow oneself to indulge in the careless habits of a drunkard.

Always behave as though judgement will be required at most any time.  Never ever be put into a compromising situation that will dilute authority of one's thought and judgement, leaving room for the enemy to mock  Christ for any saint's behavior or appearance.

 

1 Timothy 3English Standard Version (ESV)

Qualifications for Overseers (Elders)

 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task.  Therefore an overseer[a] must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive,  for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church?  He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.

Qualifications for Deacons

 Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain.  They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience.  And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless.  Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things.  Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well.  For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.

 

And...

 

Titus 2English Standard Version (ESV)

Teach Sound Doctrine ( with notes for the behavior and goals for women to attain)

 But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine.  Older men are to be sober-minded, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith, in love, and in steadfastness.  Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good,  and so train the young women to love their husbands and children,  to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.  Likewise, urge the younger men to be self-controlled. Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works, and in your teaching show integrity, dignity,  and sound speech that cannot be condemned, so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us. Bondservants are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative,  not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,  training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,  waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,  who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

 Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

 
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 From Proverbs comes a caution; "Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool,
    but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered." - Proverbs 26:28

The list of commentaries on  Proverbs 28:26 are brutally rebuking of anyone relying on  their conscience and thinking it wisdom. See http://biblehub.com/commentaries/proverbs/28-26.htm

 

BTW- Scripture is full of lists!

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4 hours ago, Neighbor said:

I will not ride alone with a woman, nor should a woman invite shame upon herself and me by doing so. It is not a small thing, but instead an extremely important thing to be very wary as a witness for Christ Jesus. The enemy attempts deceit at all times, even taking joy in mocking the saints, - even for their awareness of his snares. 

What is shameful about two co-workers going someplace in a car on a business related matter?  Why is that shameful?   It can only be shameful if you believe that a man and a woman cannot coexist without having sex. 

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Then why are you trying so hard to convince others? 

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