Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

[frienduff thaylorde]

sniff , sniff , many can no longer see the hyprocrisy , only the agenda and its subtile lies .    Yall don't know how much pain that brings my soul .

Sure I get rightly angry at false doctrine .  BUT TRULY how I would rather the brethren have the pure unity of the SPIRIT .  but when a wrong unity is getting preached

its impossible to have unity now AINT IT .

[Heleadethme]

12 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

YEP ,   I have been a watching you Fidei.    You got more subtile hints at HOW ROME DID THIS OR THAT ,  

and you find fault in protsestant .  ROME did not save us from anything .    THEY KILLED to enlarge their own borders .    YEAH , lets go kill us some muslims .

YEAH , I sure am glad JESUS did not say KILL YOUR ENEMIES ,    or every single ONE OF US would have BEEN KILLED before WE EVEN HAD a chance to COME TO CHRIST .

But you always find some subtile sneaky way to prop ROME up and YET you have to keep your card of playing PROTESTANT so sure you attack her too .

Ya aint fooling anyone Fidie .     We aint protestants because catholics killed some muslims ,   THEY became protestants , BECAUSE OF ROME ,  SHE WAS ALL EVIL AND VILE

and so men had to warn her , and she would not hear , SO THEY DID what our Lord has said too.  COME YE OUT FROM AMONG THEM , BE YE HOLY FOR HE IS HOLY

touch NOT the unclean thing and I will reiceve you .    You very crafty I will hand that to you .    But remember something JESUS once said .

MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE and a strangers ,   NO they flee them .    

Oh yes, you are so right on brother........it's SO deceptive and subtle, the way that seemeth right to man but leads to death.   Let God be true, and every man a liar.....like the father of lies and Jesus saying to some that they are of their father the devil.   I pray that nobody here will be taken in by these lies.

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 minute ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Do you know The Will of God? If so please give me lessons (Romans 12:2). For I always refrain from saying “Thus sayeth the Lord,” or “Deus Vult: God wills it.” I will say Deo Volente (God be willing: if God so wills). 

So to let denominations come together in unity is sin to you  to end what you call the sin of denominations?

YOU should be saying what this really is ,    ITS NOT THE LORDS WILL we come together for unity sake and be amongst the unclean .    ITS THE POPES WILL .

its the worlds agenda and the UN .   you really need to see this .   You keep wrongly accusing folks of not wanting unity ,    WE DO ,   JUST THE UNITY according to the will OF GOD

not the will of man .    this is all the will of men gone wrong , PLAYED out as GODS WILL.   

[Fidei Defensor]

2 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I would say what the next response from your unity play book would have you say ,   but I wont throw words in your mouth .      But I just bet I have heard it before

in that unity inlusivism mindset that gets taught .             

 

I would love to see this playbook you keep refrencing. I preach the unity of Jesus (John 17:20-23), and the end of divisions that Paul was against (1 Corinthians 1:11-18) and to bring us back to being one body and many parts (1 Corinthians 12:12-26). 

So if I have a ‘play book’ it’s the Holy Bible, New Testament. 

[frienduff thaylorde]

Well,   on that note ,  its high time for me to leave this .     I mean if after the first or second admonition ,   heck I actually let it go to way more than that .

I will pray for you fidie to see this for what it truly is .      Ps try and remember the crusades you speak so highly of ,    JESUS NEVER PREACHED THAT .

so if you really are playing from the BIBLE , stop giving ROME any credit for OUR ANYTHING .    

[Heleadethme]

14 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Do you know The Will of God? If so please give me lessons (Romans 12:2). For I always refrain from saying “Thus sayeth the Lord,” or “Deus Vult: God wills it.” I will say Deo Volente (God be willing: if God so wills). 

So to let denominations come together in unity is sin to you  to end what you call the sin of denominations?

You yourself also said that denominations are not the will of God.  What we are to do is to seek His will, not offer the strange fire of our own solutions........and thanks be to God He has revealed what His will is in these last days and all days.....HIS will is, as SCRIPTURE SAYS and which I have already posted.....that His people COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM.

[frienduff thaylorde]

5 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

You yourself also said that denominations are not the will of God.  What we are to do is to seek His will, not offer the strange fire of our own solutions........and thanks be to God He has revealed what His will is in these last days and all days.....HIS will is, as SCRIPTURE SAYS and which I have already posted.....that His people COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM.

WE know what the right unity is sister .   ITS WHY WE FOCUS ON CHRIST and PREACH HIM .     Now let the people join in that UNITY .   oh wait

if they did that they would lose all their flocks , wait that wont unite them together as one .     EXACTLY I wont HAVE THIS UNITY THEY DO < IWONT HAVE IT.

preach JESUS and whoever wants that , THEN JOIN IN UNITY WITH US WHO DO PREACH JESUS < <HIS SAYINGS < THE APOSTELS SAYINGS and WONT COMPROMISE .

STILL WANT UNITY >   they WOULD NOT WANT THAT , cause they already DONT WANT IT .   most don't .     WE will keep on THE path JESUS SAID ,

our city is to come and we will wander through the wilderness sounding the true gospel , sounding and reminding the sayings of JESUS .   whoever wants that UNITY JUMP ON BOARD.

but I aint looking back at this false unity move .  

[Fidei Defensor]

17 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

YEP ,   I have been a watching you Fidei.    You got more subtile hints at HOW ROME DID THIS OR THAT ,  

and you find fault in protsestant .  ROME did not save us from anything .    THEY KILLED to enlarge their own borders .    YEAH , lets go kill us some muslims .

YEAH , I sure am glad JESUS did not say KILL YOUR ENEMIES ,    or every single ONE OF US would have BEEN KILLED before WE EVEN HAD a chance to COME TO CHRIST .

But you always find some subtile sneaky way to prop ROME up and YET you have to keep your card of playing PROTESTANT so sure you attack her too .

Ya aint fooling anyone Fidie .     We aint protestants because catholics killed some muslims ,   THEY became protestants , BECAUSE OF ROME ,  SHE WAS ALL EVIL AND VILE

and so men had to warn her , and she would not hear , SO THEY DID what our Lord has said too.  COME YE OUT FROM AMONG THEM , BE YE HOLY FOR HE IS HOLY

touch NOT the unclean thing and I will reiceve you .    You very crafty I will hand that to you .    But remember something JESUS once said .

MY SHEEP hear MY VOICE and a strangers ,   NO they flee them .    

I find fault across all denoms, and I find goodness. Catholics get the Trinity right (Tertullian) and the Filioque right (John 15:26, John 20:20-22). Lutherans got Indulgences being wrong right and Solae Scriptura (2 Timothy 3:16), Charismatics get Spirit Filled right (Acts 8, Acts 19:1-7, 1 Corinthians 12:4-11, Baptists got don’t compromise Scripture right (2 Peter 1:20-22), Messianics/Completed Jews help us understand Hebraic things more accurately, and etc. 

[Fidei Defensor]

31 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Well,   on that note ,  its high time for me to leave this .     I mean if after the first or second admonition ,   heck I actually let it go to way more than that .

I will pray for you fidie to see this for what it truly is .      Ps try and remember the crusades you speak so highly of ,    JESUS NEVER PREACHED THAT .

so if you really are playing from the BIBLE , stop giving ROME any credit for OUR ANYTHING .    

I admire you stand against unhealthy ecumenism that compromises the Truth (John 14:6). I happen to believe a good ecumenism can be birthed if we make friendships and understand one another (but don’t have to agree on Transubstantiation, liturgy or no liturgy,  and etc). I for one love my brothers and sisters in Christ I all Denominations. I don’t agree with everything in each denomination, but I believe maturity can come to us all: “8 Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the infinite value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I could gain Christ 9 and become one with him. I no longer count on my own righteousness through obeying the law; rather, I become righteous through faith in Christ.[c] For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith.  15 Let all who are spiritually mature agree on these things. If you disagree on some point, I believe God will make it plain to you.” (Phillipians 3:8-9, 15). 

I appreciate your zeal against forms of ecumenism that venture out of the Truth and into destructive heresies (2 Peter 2:1-2). Your zeal to keep us from compromise is actually what the First Ecumenical Council of Nicea sought to do, to stop the false Christianities of Nestorianism and Arianism. 

For me I seek to build bridges and friendships. I love people of all denominations and have learned things from them and their history. By God’s leading  Luther gave us the Reform, John Wesley the First Great Awakening, Pope Gregory that we should choose the truth and what is God’s will over tradition, Jesus Movement restored the Baptism of the Spirit (Acts 8, Acts 19:1-10) on a larger scale that the Huguenots and Pentecostals has first down seeds of returning to Acts 2. 

I belije you can stand for the Truth and be loving to those you disagree, “Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.” (Ephensians  4:15)

Edited August 29, 2018 by Fidei Defensor

[Fidei Defensor]

“The Church pleaseth it selfe too much which scorns and disdaines other Churches, as unworthy of her Communion, for some weakness in their understanding, which are found guilty neither of Tyranny, Idolatry, nor any deadly Heresie.”

-John Davenant

 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Fidei Defensor