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1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

That doesn't answer my question: Does Donald Trump "rule" the United States, i.e., does he govern by right of kingship, or under a constitution with a balance of powers?

Trump doesn't rule anything and never claimed to.   This just you trying the old tactic of comparing him to dictator, which you did, over and over during the election. 


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Just now, shiloh357 said:

He never said that.   You are adding to what he said.  You need to tell the truth.

Oh, my bad.

"As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining ... to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism."

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/16/528598685/trump-says-he-has-absolute-right-to-share-intelligence-with-russia

So let me rephrase that: "... in spite of Trump' s claim to have the 'absolute right' as president to declassify secret material"?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

Oh, my bad.

"As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining ... to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism."

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/16/528598685/trump-says-he-has-absolute-right-to-share-intelligence-with-russia

So let me rephrase that: "... in spite of Trump' s claim to have the 'absolute right' as president to declassify secret material"?

 

 

Yes, he had the absolute right to say what he said.   But he was not saying he has the right to declassify anything he wants.  There is nuance to what you said that misrepresents what Trump actually said.


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5 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Trump doesn't rule anything and never claimed to....

The claim to rule is being suggested by his supporters and not Trump, but he recently tweeted he had the "absolute right" as president to declassify secret material.

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Just now, OldSchool2 said:

The claim to rule is being suggested by his supporters and not Trump, but he recently tweeted he had the "absolute right" as president to declassify secret material.

Not is not suggested by his supporters.  That is again, not true.  Start telling the truth.


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1 minute ago, shiloh357 said:

Yes, he had the absolute right to say what he said.   But he was not saying he has the right to declassify anything he wants.  There is nuance to what you said that misrepresents what Trump actually said.

Where is the subtle nuance in "... I have the absolute right to do."

Re Exec Order 13526, Prez Trump has the legal power to declassify secret info. He also has the authority to share info with whomever he wants -- but is that authority absolute?


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4 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Not is not suggested by his supporters.  That is again, not true.  Start telling the truth.

If Trump isn't here quoting scripture on his right to "rule" us, then who is?

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8 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

Where is the subtle nuance in "... I have the absolute right to do."

Re Exec Order 13526, Prez Trump has the legal power to declassify secret info. He also has the authority to share info with whomever he wants -- but is that authority absolute?

The nuance is that he was talking about a specific piece of information he shared.  He wasn't say that he has the right to declassify anything he wants.


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On ‎5‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 10:54 AM, BobRyan said:

On Donald Trump's visits this week - he visits Muslim leaders, Israeli leaders, and "the Pope". 

Who is the best person to represent "All Christians" in the world? -- the Pope?....

There is no protestant Pope; the only person who might comes close is the Archbishop of Canterbury who is the "first among equals" of the worldwide Anglican Communion. But neither men represent Eastern Orthodox Christians.

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6 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

If Trump isn't here quoting scripture on his right to "rule" us, then who is?

No one is making the claim that he "rules" us and it has been made clear that we adapt our application to the scripture to our current situation.  That was a clarification you conveniently chose to ignore so that you could post falsehood about our position.  No one here sees him as a "ruler"  despite your desperate attempt to paint us that way.

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