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58 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said:

Yes, but also in life. Do we have the power to condemn anyone or should we?

Speaking aside from Man's Laws.

We cannot condemn, but we can point out sin and point out to people that their sin places them under God's judgment

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Just now, notsolostsoul said:

Matthew 7:1-5

Judging Others

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

If ALL SIN IS EQUAL, then pointing out anyone's sin or judging another's sin is hypocritical period. There are no levels of sin.

 

That is not true.  All sin is not equal.   God singles out certain sins and calls them an abomination.   Not only that, but different sins had lesser punishments than other sins.   All sins are equally hated by God, but they are not treated equally.

Pointing out someone else's sin is not judging.  It is what we are called to do.  We are commanded not be hypocritical, meaning that we should not call out someone for lying if we are practicing the same sin.  Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others the very thing you justify in yourself.


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However you want to put a spin on the word JUDGE, it is all up to you.   We have to navigate this life which is full of obstacles and the traps set by the enemy.  You must have your wits and of course your confidence that God is with you in your daily life as you strive to do his will. But temptations, deceitfulness,cunning entities are there waiting to entice and draw you to the slaughter house.  You better learn to make wise judgement or you are food for the predators.    On the other hand, holding of grudge is another story and should not be.


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3 minutes ago, notsolostsoul said:

If ALL SIN IS EQUAL, then pointing out anyone's sin or judging another's sin is hypocritical period. There are no levels of sin.

Jesus points out EVERY SIN,  not one is left alone.

Jesus trained all the disciples to do this also, so NO SIN REMAINS, no not one.

Otherwise,  those who continue sinning defile not just their own abominable existence, but they make putrid the whole body of believers they meet with.


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13 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

All sin is not equal.

Wow, when did this happen?

14 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Pointing out someone else's sin is not judging.  It is what we are called to do.  We are commanded not be hypocritical, meaning that we should not call out someone for lying if we are practicing the same sin.  Hypocrisy is when you condemn in others the very thing you justify in yourself.

So in John 8:7

So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

Jesus really meant "Since you all do not sin in the way this woman does, you can not cast a stone" and that's why they left?

I am being very sarcastic.

It clearly reads "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first."

No levels of sin. Sin is sin. Man makes levels of sin and then implements this when they want to.

Let's ease up on the Thou Shalt not Judge, but let's be strict on this (whatever particulars some make fit how they choose to be).

 


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My view on the topic is:

God is the only one who can Judge and Condemn. Only he knows a person's heart and can call anyone he wants to him and have them fulfill his purpose when he needs them to.

Ex: Paul, sinner until he was called. David, big time repeated sinner in many facets, yet God use him how and when he wanted.... etc...

So where Man with their Man understanding and thinking can misjudge so easily or attempt to condemn according to written law.

God has the ultimate Judgement, Condemnation and say.

We should not, just share the Word and let God do what HE does.

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Just now, notsolostsoul said:

Wow, when did this happen?

 

Read your Bible.  Why is murder worthy of the death penalty in Scripture but adultery is not?
 

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So in John 8:7

So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

Jesus really meant "Since you all do not sin in the way this woman does, you can not cast a stone" and that's why they left?

I am being very sarcastic.

It clearly reads "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first."

No levels of sin. Sin is sin. Man makes levels of sin and then implements this when they want to.

Let's ease up on the Thou Shalt not Judge, but let's be strict on this (whatever particulars some make fit how they choose to be).

 

You are confusing issues.  That had nothing to do with whether or not Christians can point out sin.   What we cannot do is  condemn or pass sentence on anyone else.  

Homosexuality is a sin, whether you believe the Bible or not.   Pointing out that it displeases God, that he hates it and has condemned it is not the same as "throwing stones,"  because we are not passing sentence or condemning anyone.  We are simply pointing out that sin has been committed and that God has judged that sin and those who practice are under HIS judgment.   They are not under our judgment. 

We are free to judge what is or is not sin based upon what God has already judged in His Word.  We can judge sin, even if we cannot judge people.

 

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1 minute ago, notsolostsoul said:

My view on the topic is:

God is the only one who can Judge and Condemn. Only he knows a person's heart and can call anyone he wants to him and have them fulfill his purpose when he needs them to.

Ex: Paul, sinner until he was called. David, big time repeated sinner in many facets, yet God use him how and when he wanted.... etc...

So where Man with their Man understanding and thinking can misjudge so easily or attempt to condemn according to written law.

God has the ultimate Judgement, Condemnation and say.

We should not, just share the Word and let God do what HE does.

Only God can judge people.   We can judge sin that God has already judged in His word.   That means we can hate the sin that God hates.


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3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Why is murder worthy of the death penalty in Scripture but adultery is not?

Who made these penalties?

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Just now, notsolostsoul said:

Who made these penalties?

God did.  Read your Bible.

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