Hell

[Tyler22]

I believe the Bible is truth.  What does the BIBLE say hell is like?

[No124get1952]

One thing we must first recognize is that God never created Hell for human beings. He created Hell for the devil and all the rebellious angels. Jesus referred to hell indirectly as "outer darkness". Deuteronomy 32:22 indicates that there are levels of hell and that it is a place of fire. Psalm 9 says that the wicked will be sent there along with nations that forget God.  Psalm 18 speaks of the sorrows of hell. Psalm 116 speaks of the pains of hell. Revelation speaks of a bottomless pit where there is lots of smoke and normal sun and light are blotted out.

So if we take an overall look, we come away with a place where God is not. It is a dark and smoky place where there is pain and sorrow.

[Riccardo]

That could depend on what version of the bible you read & how they have translated the Hebrew word. As it is it is translated differently even in the same bible, these are possibly the major factors followed by our own preconceived ideas that you have been brought up on, then getting the bible to fit your idea. Hell, pit, grave, Gehenna,(Hades Greek & Sheol Hebrew,same word. I may have missed some thats just off the top of my head. 

The Jewish publication society bible & the Tanakh/ the complete Jewish bible make no mention of Hell in their bibles, if the Jews being experts in their own Hebrew language don't include hell. I think that would only confirm that there is no single word that means hell in the Hebrew manuscripts.

There are also several bible versions also rejecting any notion of hell occurring in the Greek manuscripts of the new testament.

It was first introduced by the Catholic church & incorporated into their bible by Jerome. Who also mistranslated as many as four different words to mean hell.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2017 by Riccardo

[HAZARD]

On ‎28‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 0:24 AM, Tyler22 said:

I believe the Bible is truth.  What does the BIBLE say hell is like?

 

There are five departments in Hell and they are;

One). Paradise:
In Luke 16:19-31; 23:43, we have pictured total comfort and water in this
prison because the rich man saw Lazarus afar off in comfort and bliss and asked
him to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue (Luke 16:19-31). This was
the abode of the righteous souls from Adam after dying and leaving their
bodies, being held captive by the devil against their wills till Christ's death
and resurrection (Heb. 2:14-15; Eph. 4:7-11). Before Jesus Christ conqured the
power of death and Hell, the devil had these powers. (Col. 2:14-17; Heb.
2:14-15; Rev. 1:18).

It was into this prison the repentant thief went with Christ the day they both
died (Luke 23:43). This prison is located in the heart of the Earth as is clear
from Matt. 12:40 and Eph. 4:7-11. Jesus not only went into this prison but He
also went into another prison, "Tartarus," and preached to the fallen
angels being held there in their own special prison. Jesus having conqured Hell
and death and the grave during His crucifiction and during the three days He
was in the underworld, He captured all the righteous souls that were in
Paradise and took them to Heaven when He ascended on high (Eph. 4:7-11). Jesus
now has the keys to Hell and death (Rev. 1:18). Rightious souls who die now no
longer go here. They go straight to Heaven when they die.

Two). Tartarus; This prison is the special prison for the fallen angels that
sinned both before and after the flood. There is nothing recorded in Scripture
that teaches demons or human beings ever go into this prison. In these passages
it is clear that there is a real Hell that is not the grave and that Spirit
beings are confined in chains until judgment (1 Pet. 3:19; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jude
6-7).

Three). Hell itself; (Matt. 16:18; Luke 16:19-31). This is the torment part in
the unseen world and was, still is, and will yet be the abode of all the wicked
souls and spirits of men from Able to the end of the Millennium. Then, at this
time all the wicked will be liberated out of this prison and will be given
their own immortal bodies and be judged before being cast into the "lake
of fire" forever (Rev. 20:11-15; 21:8).

Four). The Bottomless Pit or Abyss is the abode or prison of demons and certain
angelic beings. No human being is ever thrown into the abyss. It is a very deep
chasm in the lower parts of the Earth. It is translated "deep" (Luke
8:26-31; Romans 10:7) and "Bottomless Pit" in Rev. 9:1-3, 11; 11:7;
17:8; 20:1-10). All these Scriptures prove that there are prisons in the lower
parts of the Earth for departed sinning spirits, and they are not and could
never be the same as a grave on the surface of the Earth.

And Five). The Lake of Fire, is the eternal Hell and perdition of wicked men,
demons, fallen angels, and all rebellious creatures of all ages who have ever
rebelled against God, and who have refused to repent when they could have. It
is called "The Gehenna of Fire" and is always translated Hell (Matt.
5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43-45, 47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6).
This prison is also called "the second death, which is the lake of
fire" (Rev. 2:11; 20:6, 14). This final Hell was prepared for the devil
and all his angels (Matt. 25:41-46), and for all other rebells, and it is
ETERNAL in duration (Rev. 14:9-14; 20:10-15; Isa. 66:22-24; Matt. 25:46). There
is no record in Scripture of anyone being the lake of fire at present.
Scripture does show that the beast and the false prophet will be the first to
be cast into it. This will happen before the Millennium (Rev. 19:20). They will
still be there 1,000 years later when the devil and all other rebels will be
cast into it (Rev. 20:10-15).
 

Scripture also teaches that there will be degrees of punishment in Hell as far
as remorse and torment of the conscience is concerned (Matt. 10:15; 11:22;
12:41; 23:14; Mark 6:11; 12:40; Luke 10:14; 11:31, 32; 20:47).

These degrees of punishment will be because of the kind of sins
committed by one that were not committed by another. No man will be punished or
could have remorse over something he did not do. They will all regret rebelling
against God and man and failing to believe in Jesus, and repenting of sin.

In the near future men on Earth will be able to look into a real burning
Hell under the Earth. This is plainly stated in Isa. 66:22-24 where the prophet
predicts that all natural men in the New earth will be able to look into Hell
upon the men that have sinned against God.

Rev. 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of
God and angels forever. These passages are literal and should be understood
just as they read.

[Riccardo]

So you have looked into all possibilities with the term hell, where it originated & what it means or that it may mean something else. 

And the translators are perfectly correct translating the Hebrew word into into hell.  Even though they have not been consistent using the same Hebrew word as hell all the time, & have mistranslated so many other words incorrectly.

Are you seriously saying that the Parable of Lazarus & the rich man is not a parable, but is an actual event & a single drop of water is going to quench the thirst of the rich man.   

 

Edited August 2, 2017 by Riccardo

[enoob57]

I would say an unimaginable place... Just the fact that God will not be there but in His wrath speaks volumes! One need only to think of the daily needs God has created us to have of Him: thirst, hunger, love, joy, peace, rest, companionship, purpose etc. -> now remove yourself from fulfillment of this short incomplete list...

[enoob57]

2 hours ago, Riccardo said:

So you have looked into all possibilities with the term hell, where it originated & what it means or that it may mean something else. 

And the translators are perfectly correct translating the Hebrew word into into hell.  Even though they have not been consistent using the same Hebrew word as hell all the time, & have mistranslated so many other words incorrectly.

Are you seriously saying that the Parable of Lazarus & the rich man is not a parable, but is an actual event & a single drop of water is going to quench the thirst of the rich man.   

 

scholarship wise there is a great probability of it being actual events due to the specific naming...

[brakelite]

On 29/07/2017 at 8:15 AM, HAZARD said:

Rev. 14:9-11 also proves that men will be tormented in the presence of
God and angels forever. These passages are literal and should be understood
just as they read.

This is one prime example of the illogical nonsensical interpretations of scripture which paint an absurd, insulting and blasphemous mischaracterization ofGod. 

You do realize dont you that the redeemed also are going to be in the presence of God and angels forever? So the wicked are to be tormented in our presence...forever??!!! Seriously?  And you truly believe that? Such entertainment will be joyful enrich our experience and enhance our appreciation of the love, mercy and grace of God no doubt.

Do you people ever seriously think about what you are saying? Come on all you who claim to know and understand God. How do you reconcile eternal torment with a just God? Think! How do you reconcile eternal torment with a God who has the power and will to eradicate sin from the universe? You seriously believe God plans to immortalize sin? Why? As a reminder of the pain He and His Son went through to take away sin and put down the rebellion? 

Oh right, no chance you would consider any other alternative doctrine on the Biblical punishment of the wicked...only cults like JWs and Adventists believe that way right? Nuh, too proud to consider that they may be reading the Bible correctly and you not. 

Sorry bout the sarcasm, but of all teachings this eternal torment error makes me so angry...because it insults my Savior. GET OVER IT!!! 

[fixerupper]

4 hours ago, Riccardo said:

So you have looked into all possibilities with the term hell, where it originated & what it means or that it may mean something else. 

And the translators are perfectly correct translating the Hebrew word into into hell.  Even though they have not been consistent using the same Hebrew word as hell all the time, & have mistranslated so many other words incorrectly.

Are you seriously saying that the Parable of Lazarus & the rich man is not a parable, but is an actual event & a single drop of water is going to quench the thirst of the rich man.   

 

The parable of Lazarus ISN'T a parable.  Why do I say this?

Whenever Jesus says, "There was a certain,..."

Either there WAS or there WASN'T a certain beggar and rich man.  Jesus said "there was!" So I believe there was!

 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

There's more truth to Hazards reply than you think.

[fixerupper]

25 minutes ago, brakelite said:

This is one prime example of the illogical nonsensical interpretations of scripture which paint an absurd, insulting and blasphemous mischaracterization ofGod. 

You do realize dont you that the redeemed also are going to be in the presence of God and angels forever? So the wicked are to be tormented in our presence...forever??!!! Seriously?  And you truly believe that? Such entertainment will be joyful enrich our experience and enhance our appreciation of the love, mercy and grace of God no doubt.

Do you people ever seriously think about what you are saying? Come on all you who claim to know and understand God. How do you reconcile eternal torment with a just God? Think! How do you reconcile eternal torment with a God who has the power and will to eradicate sin from the universe? You seriously believe God plans to immortalize sin? Why? As a reminder of the pain He and His Son went through to take away sin and put down the rebellion? 

Oh right, no chance you would consider any other alternative doctrine on the Biblical punishment of the wicked...only cults like JWs and Adventists believe that way right? Nuh, too proud to consider that they may be reading the Bible correctly and you not. 

Sorry bout the sarcasm, but of all teachings this eternal torment error makes me so angry...because it insults my Savior. GET OVER IT!!! 

The JW'S and Adventist have more right on the issue than you do.  You try to say Hazard mischaracterizes God, but I think he's on the right track.  You can accuse Haz of what you want but it's people on this forum mischaracterizing God by saying HIS Church will produce the anti-Christ that get under my skin.