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Willa    8,233
On 8/13/2017 at 0:37 PM, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Author:  E. Swedenborg (1688-1772).

Swedenborg was the heretic, mystic whose visions were adopted by Joseph Smith to create the Mormon doctrine of people going to different heavens and the men who obey the laws in the doctrine of covenants will go to the 3rd heaven and become gods, fathering spirit children to populate their own planet.   

Swedenborg was a spiritist.  Wikipedia states:

"One of Swedenborg's lesser-known works presents a startling claim: that the Last Judgment had begun in the previous year (1757) and was completed by the end of that year[47] and that he had witnessed it.[48] According to The Heavenly Doctrine, the Last Judgment took place not in the physical world but in the World of Spirits, halfway between heaven and hell, through which all pass on their way to heaven or hell.[49] The Judgment took place because the Christian church had lost its charity and faith, resulting in a loss of spiritual free will that threatened the equilibrium between heaven and hell in everyone's life.[50][a]

The Heavenly Doctrine also teaches that the Last Judgement was followed by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, which occurred not by Christ in person but by a revelation from him through the inner, spiritual sense of the Word[51] through Swedenborg.[52]

In Earths in the Universe, it is stated that he conversed with spirits from Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Venus and the Moon as well as spirits from planets beyond the solar system.[56] From the 'encounters', he concluded that the planets of our solar system are inhabited and that such an enormous undertaking as the universe could not have been created for just one race on a planet or one 'Heaven' derived from its properties per planet. Many Heavenly societies were also needed to increase the perfection of the angelic Heavens and Heaven to fill in deficiencies and gaps in other societies. He argued: "What would this be to God, Who is infinite, and to whom a thousand or tens of thousands of planets, and all of them full of inhabitants, would be scarcely anything!"[57] "

People who believe his later "religious" writings are definitely deceived.  

 2Ti 3:12 Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,  2Ti 3:13 while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

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4 minutes ago, Willa said:

Swedenborg was the heretic, mystic whose visions were adopted by Joseph Smith to create the Mormon doctrine of people going to different heavens and the men who obey the laws in the doctrine of covenants will go to the 3rd heaven and become gods, fathering spirit children to populate their own planet.   

Swedenborg was a spiritist.  Wikipedia states:

"One of Swedenborg's lesser-known works presents a startling claim: that the Last Judgment had begun in the previous year (1757) and was completed by the end of that year[47] and that he had witnessed it.[48] According to The Heavenly Doctrine, the Last Judgment took place not in the physical world but in the World of Spirits, halfway between heaven and hell, through which all pass on their way to heaven or hell.[49] The Judgment took place because the Christian church had lost its charity and faith, resulting in a loss of spiritual free will that threatened the equilibrium between heaven and hell in everyone's life.[50][a]

The Heavenly Doctrine also teaches that the Last Judgement was followed by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, which occurred not by Christ in person but by a revelation from him through the inner, spiritual sense of the Word[51] through Swedenborg.[52]

In Earths in the Universe, it is stated that he conversed with spirits from Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Venus and the Moon as well as spirits from planets beyond the solar system.[56] From the 'encounters', he concluded that the planets of our solar system are inhabited and that such an enormous undertaking as the universe could not have been created for just one race on a planet or one 'Heaven' derived from its properties per planet. Many Heavenly societies were also needed to increase the perfection of the angelic Heavens and Heaven to fill in deficiencies and gaps in other societies. He argued: "What would this be to God, Who is infinite, and to whom a thousand or tens of thousands of planets, and all of them full of inhabitants, would be scarcely anything!"[57] "

People who believe his later "religious" writings are definitely deceived.  

 2Ti 3:12 Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,  2Ti 3:13 while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

It appears I didn't do my due diligence on the background of my source.  Regardless of his background, I only quoted what was in the Bible concerning what Zechariah wrote.  I trust your source here as being unbiased.  Nevertheless, I will check my many conservative commentaries for an explanation instead of taking something from a Google quote [it was actually DuckDuckGo quote I used].  While everything you quoted here may be true, it is not wise to use Wikipedia as a source, imho.  This is not to toss daggers at you, for I am guilty of the same thing on occasion.  Be patient with me until I come back to you confirming your understanding, or providing a counterpoint to it.  I am a bit under the weather.

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Heleadethme    124
1 hour ago, Zoltan777 said:

I think it's related to false  teachings of evil spirits when people try to be very philosophical.

 

1 hour ago, Zoltan777 said:

I think it's related to false  teachings of evil spirits when people try to be very philosophical.

Amen, that's true too, for sure.

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1 minute ago, Heleadethme said:

 

Amen, that's true too, for sure.

it sure is .  and it comes from the wisdom of mens minds, the wisdom of this world, and, well that is utter foolishness with God.

If any man want to become wise .............let him become a fool to this world , its wisdom .    GLORY GLORY GLORY to the LORD .........

soon our kind will be hunted for not conforming to the foolish wisdom of interfaith which stems from the pits of hell itself, of utter darkness and

upmost evil this interfaith is.   I have no plans to confom to any part of this all inclusive dung pile mindset .     I only pray others will do the same.

Forgive your enemies , but never conform to the dung minds of worldy men.  And always remember were it not for grace , wisdom in Christ we would be decieved

ourselves.   GLORY GLORY GLORY TO THE LORD , For HE ALONE IS LORD. and all other religions are of satan. 

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Heleadethme    124
58 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

it sure is .  and it comes from the wisdom of mens minds, the wisdom of this world, and, well that is utter foolishness with God.

If any man want to become wise .............let him become a fool to this world , its wisdom .    GLORY GLORY GLORY to the LORD .........

soon our kind will be hunted for not conforming to the foolish wisdom of interfaith which stems from the pits of hell itself, of utter darkness and

upmost evil this interfaith is.   I have no plans to confom to any part of this all inclusive dung pile mindset .     I only pray others will do the same.

Forgive your enemies , but never conform to the dung minds of worldy men.  And always remember were it not for grace , wisdom in Christ we would be decieved

ourselves.   GLORY GLORY GLORY TO THE LORD , For HE ALONE IS LORD. and all other religions are of satan. 

Amen frienduff.......interfaith is foolishness as well as rebellion and self-righteousness all rolled into one.  As though man thinks he is more righteous than God, who says there is only one Way to the Father.  There is none righteous, no not one..........there is none wise either, except what GOD gives us of His wisdom to whoever would come to Him and receive.  The way that seemeth right to the wisdom of flesh leads to death.

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17 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

Amen frienduff.......interfaith is foolishness as well as rebellion and self-righteousness all rolled into one.  As though man thinks he is more righteous than God, who says there is only one Way to the Father.  There is none righteous, no not one..........there is none wise either, except what GOD gives us of His wisdom to whoever would come to Him and receive.  The way that seemeth right to the wisdom of flesh leads to death.

Amen. that wisdom is death and leads to the second death, lest one repent and come to Christ and a new heart and new wisdom is given.

Er one within the sound , or sight of these letters...............PRAISE THE LORD , FOR HE ALONE IS LORD and ONLY CHRIST can save a soul from death.

Allah cant save none, budda cant save none, muhammed cant save none , not even themselves..................ONLY JESUS saves amen.

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Heleadethme    124
4 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Amen. that wisdom is death and leads to the second death, lest one repent and come to Christ and a new heart and new wisdom is given.

Er one within the sound , or sight of these letters...............PRAISE THE LORD , FOR HE ALONE IS LORD and ONLY CHRIST can save a soul from death.

Allah cant save none, budda cant save none, muhammed cant save none , not even themselves..................ONLY JESUS saves amen.

Praise the Lord, amen.  Thank you Father, for your Son!

I love and give thanks to God for His insight:  "that wisdom is death and leads to the second death".

 

 

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