sniper shooting in vegas

[The_Patriot21]

20 minutes ago, Davida said:

The other question that remains...could he have pulled this off without help? also, who was the woman that told people they all were going to die before the shooting began?

He could....if he did it was absolute proof he didn't just snap though. Assuming the weapons were full auto and legal, that would require a level II firearms license if I recall, and those arnt something you can go and just get. He would also have had to have spent time familiarizing himself with the guns. 

He wouldn't have needed a lot of practice shooting, he was going full auto into a crowd of 20,000 people you wouldn't need to be a crack shot, unless you had a specific target which doesn't appear to be the case here, but he would need to know how the gun functions so probably a few trips to the range shooting and time spent at home practicing reloading etc. 

Research into how the guns work, what would make it easier (like the shooting bench) is kind of a big thing... though that's more evidence it was him. An experienced shooter, especially someone with military training would have most likely taken the shots from a table inside the room to protect himself from return fire...the fact he set up a shooting stand at the window so the gun hung out is kind of a novice move. Made for maximum damage but it makes you a target.

He may have had help to...if he did that person is no longer there. It's possible his buddy shot him and left, it would help explain how he got so many guns and ammo up there without being seen. As a gun buff, I often take multiple guns shooting, and even 3-4 guns and ammo involve multiple trips between my house and truck. But, to date no evidence has been found for an accomplice, or if they have they haven't released it yet.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

4 minutes ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

He could....if he did it was absolute proof he didn't just snap though. Assuming the weapons were full auto and legal, that would require a level II firearms license if I recall, and those arnt something you can go and just get. He would also have had to have spent time familiarizing himself with the guns. 

He wouldn't have needed a lot of practice shooting, he was going full auto into a crowd of 20,000 people you wouldn't need to be a crack shot, unless you had a specific target which doesn't appear to be the case here, but he would need to know how the gun functions so probably a few trips to the range shooting and time spent at home practicing reloading etc. 

Research into how the guns work, what would make it easier (like the shooting bench) is kind of a big thing... though that's more evidence it was him. An experienced shooter, especially someone with military training would have most likely taken the shots from a table inside the room to protect himself from return fire...the fact he set up a shooting stand at the window so the gun hung out is kind of a novice move. Made for maximum damage but it makes you a target.

He may have had help to...if he did that person is no longer there. It's possible his buddy shot him and left, it would help explain how he got so many guns and ammo up there without being seen. As a gun buff, I often take multiple guns shooting, and even 3-4 guns and ammo involve multiple trips between my house and truck. But, to date no evidence has been found for an accomplice, or if they have they haven't released it yet.

I heard, he didn't try to swap out magazines too often, just switched to another rifle ready to go.  I'm familiar with the landscape between Reno and Las Vegas.  Lot's of open desert area to practice.  But you don't need much practice when you're spray a crowd with bullets.  He had a number of guns with him and explosives that he didn't use.  What was his exit strategy?

[The_Patriot21]

7 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

I heard, he didn't try to swap out magazines too often, just switched to another rifle ready to go.  I'm familiar with the landscape between Reno and Las Vegas.  Lot's of open desert area to practice.  But you don't need much practice when you're spray a crowd with bullets.  He had a number of guns with him and explosives that he didn't use.  What was his exit strategy?

Yeah I imagine that he wouldn't need more then one or two trips. He may not have had a exit strategy, just keep shooting until he saw the cops going up and then off himself. Or perhaps he did have a partner that shot him and made use of it

[other one]

2 hours ago, Davida said:

I'm interested to find out who was the woman at the concert that told people that they were all going to die? Are we also to believe his girlfriend had no clue what he had planned? That he gave nothing away? made no comments to her, showed no contempt? A photo of the two of them at a hate trump protest has surfaced.

I haven't been able to keep up with news for we've been out on the lake...  I just learned about the woman and I had the same  questions. 

 

Oh my, we could never get the msm to say that he's just a trump hating democratic progressive and he's not nuts.

Maybe Rush was right........     Liberalism is a mental disease.    We will have to wait to see.

[missmuffet]

3 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

I believe you are wrong.  This was well planned.

I am not saying that he did not know what he was doing or that is was not planned. I am saying that he is sick, sick, sick.

[other one]

3 minutes ago, Davida said:

I hear ya. I also do not believe the authorities claim within hours that this was not a terrorist attack & that ISIS had nothing to do with this- how do they come to that conclusion without investigation?? It is the PC narrative is how. I think this was an Islamic terrorist attack . Isis does not claim without involvement & they had been threatening to attack vegas. ISIS said this guy was a soldier of the Caliphate and that he received a muslim name & the fact that he killed himself, that is still acceptable to die in battle.

I'm going to wait to see...   it is possible, it's also possible that he's a follower of George Soros....    George's people are saying that they are about to get really ugly around the first of November and start protesting and continue until Trump is kicked out of office.

So I have two evil groups that are possibilities and of course possession or just plain nuts.  There is another possibility, but I would need to know a lot about his childhood to get into that.     the Most likely thing that looks to me is that he was programmed to do what he has done, and God only knows who/how/why that could happen.

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Just now, missmuffet said:

I am not saying that he did not know what he was doing or that is was not planned. I am saying that he is sick, sick, sick.

That's different.  I didn't get that out of what you wrote.  If a person is sick, mentally or physically, there is a chance they can be healed.  Short of an intervention by God, psychopaths cannot ever be healed.  That's a fact.  They are not sick in the normal sense.  They think differently than we do and process information differently.  They have no empathy for others, people or animals.  They have no remorse and no feelings with respect to what they do.

[other one]

8 minutes ago, Davida said:

So he was not mentally aware and responsible? It is important to make a distinction between committing a sick act and being mentally irresponsible. Evil people know exactly what they are doing and make a choice because they do not value their victims. For eg Isis slaughters civilians on purpose because they think it will be the most horrifying, this is why they drive trucks into pedestrians & mothers pushing baby strollers. 

there are so many possibilities that I don't think we can conceive of this guys real problem yet.....   if he really has/had a problem.    Maybe he just hates country music....

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

That's different.  I didn't get that out of what you wrote.  If a person is sick, mentally or physically, there is a chance they can be healed.  Short of an intervention by God, psychopaths cannot ever be healed.  That's a fact.  They are not sick in the normal sense.  They think differently than we do and process information differently.  They have no empathy for others, people or animals.  They have no remorse and no feelings with respect to what they do.

 The killer in Los Vegas had a personality disorder. God can heal the psychopath if that person comes to Him and asks for forgiveness of their sins and asks Jesus Christ into their heart. God's grace and mercy is more than the human being can process. God loves everyone and that includes the man who killed all of those in Los Vegas. He does not love their sin.

[missmuffet]

28 minutes ago, Davida said:

So he was not mentally aware and responsible? It is important to make a distinction between committing a sick act and being mentally irresponsible. Evil people know exactly what they are doing and make a choice because they do not value their victims. For eg Isis slaughters civilians on purpose because they think it will be the most horrifying, this is why they drive trucks into pedestrians & mothers pushing baby strollers. 

As I said previously he was aware of what he was doing. But at some point he did snap to make such rash evil choices. What was the motive? Everyone has to be responsible for their sinful acts and must pay the consequences. He killed himself but it is apparent that he will have an eternity in hell. That is the consequence he will have to pay. People who commit such horrible crimes are a coward for killing themselves because they do not want to suffer the consequences on this earth but they will have an eternity of torture.