We serve a God that

[Heb 13:8]

2 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Believe it or not,  it doesn't work that way.   Remember adopted children can be kicked out/ arrested/ jailed/ and shot.

You're comparing God the Father to an earthly father?

[Denadii]

2 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Believe it or not,  it doesn't work that way.   Remember adopted children can be kicked out/ arrested/ jailed/ and shot.

Also, remember branches that are grafted in (gentile branches) , can be CUT OUT AGAIN, as WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURE.

i.e. not even one word of Yahweh's Word will fall to the ground - EVERY WORD is TRUTH,  without contradicting any other of HIs Word .....

See in Romans 2,

if someone even has torah,  and hears the word of God,  but does not do the word of God,  then they are NOT JUSTIFIED.

As Jesus also says always :  "who are my mother and my brother and my sister? "   "whoever HEARS the WORD OF GOD and DOES IT"   "It is not the hearers who only hear that are justified, but those who DO, the DOERS OF HIS WORD, who are justified (yes, even gentiles can be justified, according to Yahweh's Word (Scripture) .....

EVERY WORD of SCRIPTURE is TRUE.  Not one word can be broken.  It doesn't matter if you know it or agree with it or not,  His Word never changes.

Whoa!   That's totally contrary to scripture!   Obviously you don't know covenant.  According to blood covenant, an adopted son is much more secure in his relationship with the adopted father than the blood son is.   He cannot be gotten rid of without the adoptive father being killed.   We are adopted children of the most high God.   We cannot be cut out.

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

You're comparing God the Father to an earthly father?

If you will read Scripture,  you would (or rather could, Yahweh willing)  know what He does to people who ignore His Word.

Do you really have a handicap ?

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Denadii said:

Whoa!   That's totally contrary to scripture!   Obviously you don't know covenant.  According to blood covenant, an adopted son is much more secure in his relationship with the adopted father than the blood son is.   He cannot be gotten rid of without the adoptive father being killed.   We are adopted children of the most high God.   We cannot be cut out.

Keep praying and reading Scripture, seeking Yahweh's Kingdom and Yahweh's Truth from Yahweh - not from sentimental men ..... or other false doctrines and false teachings...... read a lot, seeking only from Yahweh His Revelation. 

His Revelation,  the Truth, is in Perfect Harmony with ALL of His Word.....

For starters look up "cut out" ..... since you missed it first time through.....

 

[Heb 13:8]

Just now, simplejeff said:

If you will read Scripture,  you would (or rather could, Yahweh willing)  know what He does to people who ignore His Word.

Yeah, He disciplines and sanctifies them. He doesn't throw them into the lake of fire. Heb 12.

[Denadii]

1 minute ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Yeah, He disciplines and sanctifies them. He doesn't throw them into the lake of fire. Heb 12.

God cannot throw Christians away.  That's right.  If God cut His kids out  of the covenant He would have to die.  How would that work?   Right!    It wouldn't.   It would also make God a liar and we know that He is not.

[angels4u]

10 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Believe it or not,  it doesn't work that way.   Remember adopted children can be kicked out/ arrested/ jailed/ and shot.

Also, remember branches that are grafted in (gentile branches) , can be CUT OUT AGAIN, as WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURE.

i.e. not even one word of Yahweh's Word will fall to the ground - EVERY WORD is TRUTH,  without contradicting any other of HIs Word .....

See in Romans 2,

if someone even has torah,  and hears the word of God,  but does not do the word of God,  then they are NOT JUSTIFIED.

As Jesus also says always :  "who are my mother and my brother and my sister? "   "whoever HEARS the WORD OF GOD and DOES IT"   "It is not the hearers who only hear that are justified, but those who DO, the DOERS OF HIS WORD, who are justified (yes, even gentiles can be justified, according to Yahweh's Word (Scripture) .....

EVERY WORD of SCRIPTURE is TRUE.  Not one word can be broken.  It doesn't matter if you know it or agree with it or not,  His Word never changes.

Now, I would like to know what I can  do to save myself?

When and why would God kick me out?

being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.Phillippians 1:6

 

[Denadii]

Just now, angels4u said:

Now, I would like to know what I can  do to save myself?

When and why would God kick me out?

being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.Phillippians 1:6

 

God cannot kick you out.  

Romans 8:38-39King James Version (KJV)

³⁸ For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

³⁹ Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

There is only one thing that is not on that list.  YOU.  YOU are the only one who can keep you from heaven...From the presence of God.

[Heb 13:8]

3 minutes ago, Denadii said:

God cannot throw Christians away.  That's right.  If God cut His kids out  of the covenant He would have to die.  How would that work?   Right!    It wouldn't.   It would also make God a liar and we know that He is not.

Amen!

Heb 6:16-20 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

1 John 5:9-15 We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.

[Heb 13:8]

2 minutes ago, Denadii said:

God cannot kick you out.  

Romans 8:38-39King James Version (KJV)

³⁸ For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

³⁹ Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

There is only one thing that is not on that list.  YOU.  YOU are the only one who can keep you from heaven...From the presence of God.

Indeed, and also notice the word "agape" in Rom 8:35, 39. Agape love is for believers in Christ only.

Rom 5:5 And hope does not put us to shame, because God's love (agape) has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.

Rom 8:33-39 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love (agape) of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love (agape) of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. 

2 Cor 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love (agape) of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

Col 1:3-8 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 4because we have heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love (agape) you have for all God’s people— 5the faith and love that spring from the hope stored up for you in heaven and about which you have already heard in the true message of the gospel 6that has come to you. In the same way, the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world—just as it has been doing among you since the day you heard it and truly understood God’s grace. 7You learned it from Epaphras, our dear fellow servant, who is a faithful minister of Christ on our behalf, 8and who also told us of your love (agape) in the Spirit.