A strong hand.

[Denadii]

12 hours ago, simplejeff said:

Yes, hopefully sorry..... READ JOB, PSALMS, GENESIS, and JESUS WORDS in the GOSPELS.

 frienduff thaylorde said:   ONLY TRUTH FROM SCRIPTURE. 

ie. his post is accurate and right , true to Yahweh's Plan, Purpose, Word, and Salvation in Jesus.

Its FUNNY how Christians act when I say that God is not in control in the Earth.  simplejeff I read all that you suggested.  There is no place in there that contradicts what I said  There is np place  in the bible that says God is in contol in the Earth.  It says He gave US dominion in the Earth....It says our lease will run out.  It says He is in control everywhere else, but in the Earth WE have control....I understand though...It is a scary concept when one first hears it.....You must keep in mind too......Not everything you hear in church is right according to the Word.....People tend to  'translate' the Word....But when its in English and you speak English, why do you need an interpreter?

[MorningGlory]

On 11/6/2017 at 10:40 PM, Wayne222 said:

Not a dictator.  Do you know in America those things were outlawed.  At one time there was a limit on things shown on tv. We have gone to accept perverse entertainment and call it rights of others. Nope it's not there right to watch porn or murder.

You said a 'strong man'.  Not a strong government or public consensus or laws on such things.  One man having that kind of authority would be a dictator. 

[Denadii]

8 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

God allows us to be in control

 He allows Satan to be in control of the earth . Satan said to Jesus all this I will give you if you worship me for it is given to me. But God can step in at anytime.

LOLOLOL     Oh Wayne......That liar is Never in control of anything....Hes a liar, a loser, hes a lump on slag with a big mouth.  He has no power, he has NO authority...He has nothing that anybody needs to fear.   The only authority Satan has is what somebody gives him and that is over them...or their poor kids.    Don't ever give that bag of wind anything!   When Jesus died for you He went into hell, kicked the slats out of Satan, took the keys of authority from him and left him no more than a popped balloon.

At the time Satan told that to Jesus he did have legal control in the Earth.  Ever since Adam gave it to him....But look at the Word what Jesus did when He was crucified.

[Guest shiloh357]

9 minutes ago, Denadii said:

Its FUNNY how Christians act when I say that God is not in control in the Earth.  simplejeff I read all that you suggested.  There is no place in there that contradicts what I said  There is np place  in the bible that says God is in contol in the Earth.  It says He gave US dominion in the Earth....It says our lease will run out.  It says He is in control everywhere else, but in the Earth WE have control....I understand though...It is a scary concept when one first hears it.....You must keep in mind too......Not everything you hear in church is right according to the Word.....People tend to  'translate' the Word....But when its in English and you speak English, why do you need an interpreter?

Actually God is completely sovereign over the earth and everything in it.   Your position is unbiblical.

The Bible teaches the absolute sovereignty of God.   Psalm 115:3; Isaiah 46:10; Jonah 2:9; John 6:65; Romans 8:28–30; Romans 9:15–21; Romans 11:36; Ephesians 1:14-11; Titus 1:1; 1 Peter 1:1-2

[simplejeff]

3 hours ago, Denadii said:

I read all that you suggested.  There is no place in there that contradicts what I said  There is np place  in the bible that says God is in contol in the Earth.  It says He gave US dominion in the Earth.

I don't think you expect me to correct your reading comprehension,  but as Shiloh has shown , sorry, like I said before.

I don't even think it is possible to read any Scripture, especially JOB, and think that man is in control (except to store up more and more wickedness until the last day (for mankind/ society/ scientists/ doctors/ politicians/ bankers churches/ etc etc etc as written throughout Scripture).

However, as much as you probably do not want to say ,  what school or church thinks and teaches what you post ? (if any)  

It often simplifies getting to the actual root of an error to say where it comes from, even if people follow it (like catholicism, jws,  mormons, etc etc etc ) .... 

Otherwise it may just take months (literally on this forum) to get to the bottom/source ......

[Denadii]

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

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I don't think you expect me to correct your reading comprehension,  but as Shiloh has shown , sorry, like I said before.

I don't even think it is possible to read any Scripture, especially JOB, and think that man is in control (except to store up more and more wickedness until the last day (for mankind/ society/ scientists/ doctors/ politicians/ bankers churches/ etc etc etc as written throughout Scripture).

However, as much as you probably do not want to say ,  what school or church thinks and teaches what you post ? (if any)  

It often simplifies getting to the actual root of an error to say where it comes from, even if people follow it (like catholicism, jws,  mormons, etc etc etc ) .... 

Otherwise it may just take months (literally on this forum) to get to the bottom/source ......

Don't worry about my reading comprehension...Words are my business.  They are what I do

If you were to stop trying to translate or interpret what you read and just read it you would understand a lot easier.   Most of the bible is very clear, and one would need a theologian to make a mistake with it.

I've never heard a church or school teach what I say....That does not make me wrong though....I've already said that churches and bible schools teach a lot doctrines of demons (doctrines taught by demons).  Remember that churches are people and people make mistakes....Get the wrong information, misunderstand, etc...  I know I've made mistakes, but again churches and schools make mistakes too and when they do the result is much worse.

[Wayne222]

3 hours ago, Denadii said:

LOLOLOL     Oh Wayne......That liar is Never in control of anything....Hes a liar, a loser, hes a lump on slag with a big mouth.  He has no power, he has NO authority...He has nothing that anybody needs to fear.   The only authority Satan has is what somebody gives him and that is over them...or their poor kids.    Don't ever give that bag of wind anything!   When Jesus died for you He went into hell, kicked the slats out of Satan, took the keys of authority from him and left him no more than a popped balloon.

At the time Satan told that to Jesus he did have legal control in the Earth.  Ever since Adam gave it to him....But look at the Word what Jesus did when He was crucified.

When Michael the arch Angel debated with Satan over Moses body he did not accuse him of anything but only said the Lord rebuke you. We should never talk down on Satan. Or any ruler for that matter. Just let God rebuke him. He will raise the Antichrist. And one world government.  But the long of longs will destroy him at his coming.

[Wayne222]

I meant king of kings. My phone does that.

[Wayne222]

11 hours ago, Sojourner414 said:

I believe that such a man will come, promising such things to the people. He will promise to "make people do the right thing" and come across as completely trustworthy, capable, intelligent, and utterly moral. He will sway the very nations with this kind of talk, and start solving problems that other countries have had for generations, to the point of smoothing over age-old enmities and wars between rival countries. Many will love him, and want him to lead their nations....

 

 

... then after he takes power, He'll set himself up in the rebuilt Jewish Temple as 'god'.

Oh come on Sojourner. Your talking about the anti christ. I am talking about a righteous leader who is strong in character. 

[Denadii]

37 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

When Michael the arch Angel debated with Satan over Moses body he did not accuse him of anything but only said the Lord rebuke you. We should never talk down on Satan. Or any ruler for that matter. Just let God rebuke him. He will raise the Antichrist. And one world government.  But the long of longs will destroy him at his coming.

I did not rebuke Satan.   I only said what the Word says about him.   Do not fear him Wayne!   Because of who you are and whose you are.....Satan has to bow his knee to you, and.....Satan is no longer a ruler.