Reinventing The World

[Dennis1209]

On 11/27/2017 at 3:03 PM, Yowm said:

Hegelian Dialectic will work when a society has lost it's moorings in absolutes and everything gets swallowed up in a sea of relativism.

Your truth and my truth maybe not be the same. There are no moral absolutes in this world and we are our own humanist gods, deciding right from wrong and all inclusive, we are evolving to greatness. We evolved from a cocktail of primordial soup over millions and millions of years, or were seeded here by advanced space aliens, take your pick. Everything was created with a 'Big Bang' from a piece of matter the size of an atom so compressed... 

With this kind of rebellion and logical nonsense being taught in our public schools and universities, the mass has been educated and deceived down to the intelligence of an ape. The funny thing about deception is, those being deceived don't even know it. Imagine, paying tens of thousands of dollars for this 'higher learning'?

Imagine where technology and humanity might be today, if the counsel of God and the 'science' found in scripture were viewed from a creation perspective? The funny thing about 'time', and another and same word for time, is decay. I've noticed from scripture, the further you go back in the history of humanity, the higher I.Q. they had and the smarted they were. Not considering very bad choices and being deceived. As with humanities life spans, it appears our DNA has also degraded over 'time'. 

Edited November 30, 2017 by Dennis1209

[Heleadethme]

On 11/28/2017 at 1:03 AM, JohnD said:

The rapture of the Church is the end of the Church age. It will only happen after the man of lawlessness is revealed. This man will deceive all but Christians into believing he is the true messiah. The Church being the one people who will not receive his mark align themselves with death. 3.5 years later, the remnant of the Church will be so deep in hiding it will be believed they have been eradicated from the earth. Then the beast will renege on his covenant with Israel and the Jews will become the refuseniks that the Christians had been. Despised by all, the world's armies will close in on Israel. But about 105 days after the temple sacrifices are abated, the Church remnant (those few who survived to that point) will be raptured. 

The purpose for all of this?

The world is going to try to eradicate the Jews from the earth. This will drive them to the desperate measure of crying out to Jesus because nothing else has worked. And he will come and he will save them.

...and so all Israel will be saved.....and it will mean life from the dead.......I am looking forward to that wonderful Day!

[Heleadethme]

On 11/28/2017 at 2:04 AM, Marilyn C said:

Hi JohnD,

Hey bro, your scenario does not reveal the Lord Jesus Christ as the builder, nourisher and maturer of the Body of Christ, but rather a weak `lord & saviour.` Have you ever thought of it from that perspective?

`Do you not know that we shall judge angels, .....that we shall judge this world system?` (1 Cor. 6: 2 & 3)

And we are certainly not going to do that in `deep hiding!`

regards, Marilyn.

Marilyn....I am not sure how it will look on the ground so to speak in the very end........but to my understanding His remnant of followers will be caught up with Jesus in the air, spared His wrath, and then afterwards return as New Jerusalem adorned as a bride and it is at this point we begin to rule and reign with Him, as you are saying judging angels and the world.  I believe from scripture that great glory will be on His true church during the persecution and tribulation, endued with power and spiritual weapons, but that this will be our victory in the midst of tribulation rather than in preventing or avoiding tribulation per se.  Like Jesus the Lamb of God suffering and dying on the cross while utterly loving and forgiving His enemies.......was actually great victory, the greatest!  But also we are told to flee from one place to another if we are being persecuted.....like Jesus because His time (to be crucified) had not yet come, but spreading the gospel wherever we go as we are scattered and sown like seeds (gospel preached in all the world and then the end will come).......and many will have to be in hiding, like the underground church in China and those being hunted by Constantine as JohnD is pointing out......and also I think there is a clue to the end where Jesus said you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before He comes, this hints that the gospel will be preached throughout Israel at that time too, and also sadly that believers will be persecuted there.  That's the kind of general picture I have at the moment.....are you seeing it more or less like that too, or do you have a different scenario in mind.

[Heleadethme]

On 11/29/2017 at 9:30 AM, frienduff thaylorde said:

By all means we must not partake in thought word or deed this all inclusive mindset for world peace. 

You keep staying far away from any who even begins teaching about going down that road.   Look out for it , it will start small.

They will begin focusing on friendships with other religions and the world.  the focus will be on unity , on being accepting to different views.

The correction will not be the focus , unity will be.   YOU start seeing any kind of that funny biz in any group you fellowship with.   FLEE FAST.

warn out .     I say this also because YOU WILL SEE,  you WILL, that as more time quickly goes on, not only will they see any like this as in error

their will be ideals on how to deal with such said people like us.    Just watch for it .   They will make clever speeches

like divisions are of satan  ,  we need unity , not to be focusing on doctrine, but ON UNITY and fellowship.  WATCH FOR IT, its way closer than most see.

See, its in so many churches now , on this smaller level .  YOU SEE IT IN YOURS> YOU RUN.    RUN .

Amen frienduff......it is sinister and sneaky and starts small, as you are saying.  We have to guard our hearts......because it is a form of self-righteousness and not the righteousness of Christ.  It is the filthy rags of man's own righteousness.......it is antichrist.  It opposes the true righteousness of Christ.