The Dark Side of Christianity

[frienduff thaylorde]

11 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

You might be careful not to through out the baby with the bathwater. Apostasy is an insidious disease but its been going on since before Constantine. I won't bore you with the details. It was the reformation that splintered the Church, but the Mother of harlots was the RCC. There are many sincere believers in these denominations, but Christ knows His true bride and will take her out like you said separating the tares from wheat. This comes with the mark of the beast. Read Rev 15

Apostacy has indeed been going on.   But its mushroomed so strong in these days.     Now their is a huge gathering occurring , that involves

all religions and faiths within Christanity.    ALL INCLUSIVE WORLD PEACE , ROME LED.    it seems the great climax of it all is building.

Always evil has been in the world , and yes their has always been false prophets

ONLY now it seems all the false ones are coming under a JOIN TOGETHER all inclusive mindset.   They laying down arms and picking up the bear hugfor world peace mindset.

FROM which Rome leads.    You know its evil when the world says , hey their are many paths to God.    BUT WHEN a so called CHRISTAIN religion leads it all, 

YA GOTTA KNOW APOSTACY IS HITTING the heights .   When RELIGOIN and MEDIA, politics and top down bottom up

are being gathered into a God is love mindset , all inclusive mindset.    Even wicans...............say we are LOVE and are for this all inclusive mindset for world peace and unity.

WHEN the same spirit can be seen in non religious, gays ,  media, politics , all different religions , and all different faiths in christanity,

THEN YEAH...................this IS IT.   this is the delusion that will lead the world as one heart , one mind , one hug for world peace RIGHT TO THE DARK KING who comes in BY PEACE.

SO say it with me.    Seeker friendly, BAD,   hugs without doctrine,  BAD   , UNITY with the world , BAD,    unity with other religions , BAD

and they sure make it seem like love ,  calling it building bridges,    healing the wounds of division .     And the double minded are falling for it with tongues held out for more.

[frienduff thaylorde]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 3:01 AM, Butero said:

I understand that, but the question is why we wouldn't want it to be true.  It is a wonderful thought, but unconditional eternal security the way some preach it is a fairy tale.  

My question is WHY would we desire something that aint true to be true.    GOD , HIS WAY IS PERFECT.   And every warning to every promise is  B  E  A   U   T    I     F      U      L

and for our good.    You be blessed butero.    

[frienduff thaylorde]

On ‎1‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 7:23 PM, simplejeff said:

Because it directly is a FALSE GOSPEL - anathema.

Might want to let butero know ,    that to even have that desire would be an outright MOCK TO CHRIST WHO DID SUFFER so as all who REALLY DO believe in HIM , will also

Follow HIM.     IF a man rejects Christ , HOW DID CHRIST react.    LET THEM BE, they blind leaders of the blind.  HE did not chase after   a single one of those who rejected him.

Since the Father did all that was necessary FOR SALVATION , and SENT the ONLY SAVOIR.     HOW great a mockery it is to reject that .

I seen so many comments from some here that literally scares me to death for them.     NO idea , for many have sat under concepts of men

that have twisted the image of GOD , OF CHRIST.     a kind word.      GOD did not create all things , so he could serve them.

ALL things were created for his GOOD pleasure.   And way too many men created a God in their own lustful image , that serves the flesh

their own lusts and just serves them .      We got serious problems.  Sadly its no wonder all inclusive will captivate this generation .   Heck its all about HUMANITY NUMBER ONE

and any other god is a okay cause all is well.     This generation is truly doomed , this is the last generation , whether or not anyone believes that.

THE SIGNS of the times are so clear .    Honestly I feel so heavy for some right now , I don't know whether to cry or what.     I will pray . 

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, Butero said:

God's ways are perfect, and higher than man's ways.  I won't argue with that, but I am coming from the standpoint of not desiring that anyone wind up spending eternity in hell.  Having read what the Bible says about what hell is like, as a person, not God, I feel for those who go there, even if they deserve it.  That doesn't mean I see God as unrighteous.  That is just because I can put myself in the place of a person being tormented forever and ever and ever and think that I hate to see that happen to even the worst sinner.  

I will say this.  I don't want to believe a lie.  I would rather know the truth, even if it is hard to handle, than to be deceived into believing a lie.  I am thankful to God for revealing the truth to me, but with knowledge comes sorrow.  The truth is not always pleasant to hear.  

"For in much wisdom is much grief:  and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow."  Ecclesiastes 1:18

IF we have any desire for any to perish ,  then we do not KNOW GOD. 

But we don't have to  want something to be true that aint true.     That is way off.   

I got a wonderful idea.    and you will like it.    Since we don't desire any to perish , why don't we preach ONLY CHRIST SAVES

AND he aint the minsitir of sin either.   WHY don't we correct ,warn ,get  serious , be grave.   I mean in the SPIRIT I don't have to try to be anything

IT JUST ALL THEIR.    When I see error,  ALARM bells ring for the other , that I warn them .  WHY you think I hate interfaith all inclusive seeker friendly dung so much.

Cause its a lie from satan.   Yes  I said satan and I mean satan.    the churches are being duped .     We really need to kick so many traditions and theologies

that many have taught , RIGHT OUT THE DOOR,  and all start over in JUST the bible.   

[frienduff thaylorde]

4 minutes ago, Butero said:

Some people wind up in hell, even though they live their whole life doing good to others, because they didn't believe in Christ.  Others are like many I encounter at Christian message boards.  They live after the flesh, and believe that telling them they must conform to any standards is legalism.  They have been deceived by false teachers.  Yes, we should care enough about our eternal soul to seek the truth till we find it, but I can't help but feel for a person that is in those camps when I think about them burning in fire for eternity, or having tormenting angels torturing them for eternity.  God is righteous, and he has the right to do anything he wishes.  I would never seek to charge him foolishly, but there are people I know personally that will wind up in hell or already are there, and it is hard not to have some feelings for what they are going through.  Perhaps you don't feel anything for the people in hell, but I do, even if they deserve what they are getting.  

So lets get the gospel and correction out on the streets .    Instead of worrying who will end up where.   WHY NOT FOCUS on the GOSPLE that saves all who receives Christ.

IF any one of us desires any one to perish we do NOT KNOW GOD.    ps  that would mean doing all to also CORRECT any member in any error.

THE LOVE that comes FROM GOD,   is nothing like what most think love is .    the worlds love IS NOT AT ALL like GODS LOVE.

Be blessed butero.    ps, stop worrying about things you cant do a thing about.  the dead are already dead.  LETS FOCUS On the living and bring them to Christ .  THE REAL CHRIST

not the Christ most preach ,  THE TRUE BIBLCAL ONE .    be blessed butero.   

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 minute ago, Butero said:

Thanks.  I receive your correction.  Having thought about what you said, you are absolutely right.  God bless and keep preaching the truth.  

Lets keep on exhorting one another .    Be blessed brother .     We have a huge falling away going on, and thus we must ever more contend for the true faith.

Be blessed butero.     And let us praise the LORD .        Sing to the Lord butero , sing to the LORD .   

[Sister]

DesertSW

I am sorry for the loss of all those you loved, especially your wife and for your deep hurt.  You did nothing wrong hence the no explanation, otherwise they would try to correct you.

Your spirit did not match theirs, and Lord has caused a division between the good and bad sheep.  He has got you out of there because he knows all things that lay ahead that you cannot see yet.   In time, you will find your answers as more unfolds, but in the meantime, your faith will increase, not decrease as your eyes will be opened more to what's really going on around us in the invisible world.

May God bless you with wisdom and peace, and just to let you know, that the true church are those who follow "the Word of God" with all their heart, soul and mind.  Your true brother and sisters will join you soon, so hold on till then.

 

The narrow path is so narrow that only one can fit through it at a time.  That's how narrow it is. 

 Luke 12:51   Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

[Blood Bought 1953]

On 1/2/2018 at 6:03 AM, Butero said:

What happens if you lose your faith?  True faith in Christ brings about a changed life.  That is why James says faith without works is dead.  A lot of people claim to have their faith in Christ, but the way they live shows they don't.  

 

Restoring A Sinning Saint (2:5-13) Let me remind you that in Paul's first letter to the Corinthian church, he rebuked them because they were permitting gross immorality in the congregation. In fact, they had a case of incest in their congregation, and they were shutting their eyes to it. (Yet they were acting as if they were very spiritual!) This kind of gross immorality was something that was even shocking to the heathen; yet the congregation was ignoring it. Paul had written them to get this matter straightened out. He read the riot act to them. He told them, "...put away from among yourselves that wicked person" (1Cor. 5:13). The congregation did listen to Paul. They excommunicated the man. But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many [2Cor. 2:5-6]. They had obeyed Paul. They had excommunicated the man, which was the right thing for them to do. Then the man acknowledged his sin and came under great conviction. Now what ought they to do? They should forgive him. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him [2Cor. 2:7-8]. "He will be overwhelmed, not only because of his sin, but because you won't receive him. So now put your arm about him, and restore him to your fellowship." To the Galatian believers Paul wrote: "Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted" (Gal. 6:1). For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things. To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; Lest Satan should get an advantage of us; for we are not ignorant of his devices [2Cor. 2:9-11]. You see, the Devil tries to push us one way or another. Sometimes the Devil gets us to shut our eyes to gross immorality. There are many instances of that in our churches today. I know one preacher who has had trouble with women in three different churches. Each church he went to serve knew his past record, and still they accepted him as pastor! In shutting their eyes to gross immorality, they were hurting the cause of Christ Jesus.  

 

 

Butero......sorry that I did not go into enough detail in my original post......when I said “chastised” and “ brought back” , I was referring to the fact that he had been ejected from the Church and brought back into the fellowship after he had truly repented. I included the Vernon McGee comments because he explains it better than me.Also I am a one-fingered typist who hates to type.lol God bless

[Heleadethme]

22 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

Such people are not likely to be true born again believers. We will all make mistakes occasionally, but you will not see a true born again believer LEAVING the faith in the way you speak

Even born-again people can be enticed through their lusts and fall......I knew of a Christian believer once who left her husband and four little girls behind to run off with another man, she was the wife of a relative of mine.  (She might have been rescued if her church had any inkling of how to talk to her, instead of ignoring the situation and just condemning her and writing her off.)   But even the angels in heaven can fall, like those ones who fell in the days of Noah.  We are even warned that those who have tasted of the heavenly gift, if they fall away cannot be redeemed.......fear of the Lord is a great ally in the good fight of faith and we cannot afford to be complacent and relax our guard because the devil doesn't relax and is always prowling seeking to devour those who follow the Lord.  Forwarned is forearmed.  I was tempted too at one point in my walk, but thankfully cried out to the Lord to keep me, and He did.  But nobody had told me how the devil doesn't play fair or how to fight the flames of hell when they lick at you, and this was many years after I got saved.....the churches just avoid embarrassing topics, they are too religious to deal with real life, and so sin just flourishes and comes to the full in the churches.  I even wonder if this is the fire/flames flames (lust) that everyone's work gets tested by......and that's why we hear of so many pastors falling.....and what we hear about is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Heleadethme]

6 hours ago, Sam Smith said:

In shutting their eyes to gross immorality, they were hurting the cause of Christ Jesus.  

Amen........and I would say not just hurting the cause of Christ, but killing it altogether.  Form of godliness but denying the power, from such turn away.......and that speaks to most of the churches in the western world today at the end of this age.