The Dark Side of Christianity

[ScottA]

2 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Better bury him.   AFTER he dies.

The death ?  Crucifixion with/in Christ Jesus.

The burial ? Immersion in His Name.

Alway as He Says.

 

I could be wrong, but I think that DesertSW was even speaking of Christians after immersion.

[simplejeff]

2 minutes ago, TickledPinkinChristWoot! said:

No one can ever snatch t

No one could snatch the angels (which opposed YHWH) out of heaven either ! 

Yet they left,  and are condemned forever. 

Same with all who preach a false gospel - YHWH says they are anathema!  (cursed forever)

[TickledPinkinChristWoot!]

5 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

No one could snatch the angels (which opposed YHWH) out of heaven either ! 

Yet they left,  and are condemned forever. 

Same with all who preach a false gospel - YHWH says they are anathema!  (cursed forever)

No one did snatch the angels out of Heaven. God cast them out!

Those who preach a false Gospel are not in Christ. Those are not the same as those who are known by name to God before the creation of the world and have their name written in the Lamb's Book of Life. From whence they shall never be erased. The trials and travails that befall in the prophecy in Apostle John's Book of Revelation, such as honoring the Beast, are not those who are in Christ . It is precisely because we have our name written in the Lamb's Book of Life that we overcome the trials of Revelation. And God being sovereign, knew our name before he created this world, before we entered our mother's womb. Jesus said he will never cast us out. Never, means never when the sovereign power of the universe makes His covenant with us.

Anyone who says he does, are those false teachers. And God never knew them. Matthew 7

1 John 2:19Mounce Reverse-Interlinear New Testament (MOUNCE) **Readers of this scripture have but to go to the Bible link and click on the Greek word they'd like to know the full meaning of in this or any Mounce edition passage. 

¹⁹ They went outexerchomai fromek ushēmeis butalla they wereeimi notou ofek ushēmeis; forgar ifei they had beeneimi ofek ushēmeis, they wouldan have continuedmenō withmetaushēmeis. Butalla they went out from us thathina it might become plainphaneroō thathoti noneou of them areeimi ofek ushēmeis.

[frienduff thaylorde]

50 minutes ago, TickledPinkinChristWoot! said:

Scripture, scripture, scripture. For all that you profess to be true, please. 

pay CLOSE attention.  cause this DOES HAPPEN.

For it is IMPOSSIBLE for those WHO WERE ONCE ENLIGHTEND ( that means THEY WERE ONCE ENLIGHTEND.

and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and , YES AND were MADE MADE MADE partakers of...........wait for it .............wait for it

OF THE HOLY GHOST, oops,    and have tasted of the good WORD of God

and the powers of the world to come,  if they shall FALL AWAY to renew them again unto repentance.    SO IT DOES HAPPEN .  YEAH it do.

but lets see what peter says

FOR if AFTER , AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world THROUGH the KNOWLEDGE of our LORD and savoir

they are again entangled and over come THE LATTER END IS WORSE FOR THEM>

OOOOOOOOPS.   it does happen.   it does and it can.    WHY we think peter said IF YOU DO , DO , DO , DO , DO  these things brethren you shall never fall.

OR how bout where he warns ,   LEST you TOO be led away WITH THE ERROR of the WICKED.    IT any likes I can spend a day on this bringing POUNDS of scrips

that teaches many can fall away.       UP FOR IT ..........cause I WILL BRING THEM and FLOOD this place , I mean FLOOD it with truth.

[simplejeff]

Some year when you/ tickled / have time,  look up (In Scripture) 'erased' .....  and ask the Father in heaven for HIS Understanding, contrary to all the false gospels.

[Heleadethme]

1 minute ago, TickledPinkinChristWoot! said:

No one did snatch the angels out of Heaven. God cast them out!

Those who preach a false Gospel are not in Christ. Those are not the same as those who are known by name to God before the creation of the world and have their name written in the Lamb's Book of Life. From whence they shall never be erased. The trials and travails that befall in the prophecy in Apostle John's Book of Revelation, such as honoring the Beast, are not those who are in Christ . It is precisely because we have our name written in the Lamb's Book of Life that we overcome the trials of Revelation. And God being sovereign, knew our name before he created this world, before we entered our mother's womb. Jesus said he will never cast us out. Never, means never when the sovereign power of the universe makes His covenant with us.

Anyone who says he does, are those false teachers. And God never knew them. Matthew 7

1 John 2:19Mounce Reverse-Interlinear New Testament (MOUNCE) **Readers of this scripture have but to go to the Bible link and click on the Greek word they'd like to know the full meaning of in this or any Mounce edition passage. 

¹⁹ They went outexerchomai fromek ushēmeis butalla they wereeimi notou ofek ushēmeis; forgar ifei they had beeneimi ofek ushēmeis, they wouldan have continuedmenō withmetaushēmeis. Butalla they went out from us thathina it might become plainphaneroō thathoti noneou of them areeimi ofek ushēmeis.

Those angels fell......of their own accord.  No one could snatch them and no one did, yet they fell.......again of their own accord.  Same with believers.....no one can snatch us out of the Lord's hand.....but we can also fall of our own accord.......see the difference?   Free will is the reason.  There are warnings all over scripture against falling away, sister......we have to look at the whole counsel of God, He didn't warn for nothing.  Even the Israelites of old who angered the Lord and fell away......was written for our ensample and warning.

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 minute ago, simplejeff said:

Some year when you have time,  look up (In Scripture) 'erased' .....  and ask the Father in heaven for HIS Understanding, contrary to all the false gospels.

The problem is jeff, most have sat under men who have preached very little doctrine and when they did it was to twist it to line up with their lies.

BY Grace GOD alone put me n the bible only  .    THEM SCRIPS SURE DO make one wise unto salvation through faith in Christ.

People get irate at me .   YET all I ever did by grace was read the bible for hours upon hours every day , and every day since may of two thousand and six.

THEY cannot overcome THE TRUTH of those scrips GOD PUT ME IN .  they cant do it.  cant be done .   THIS IS WHY , oh WHY I keep trying to get people

To read ONLY the bible .   Its why those scrips can just come a flowing when NEEDED.   and way more scrips I can by grace bring .  they cant , they just bring twisted version of their teachers .

[TickledPinkinChristWoot!]

7 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Some year when you/ tickled / have time,  look up (In Scripture) 'erased' .....  and ask the Father in heaven for HIS Understanding, contrary to all the false gospels.

Perhaps you would be enlightened if you sought council in how to not be condescending while thinking you're teaching God's word by Christ's example. 

I know the scriptures. I need not debate them with teachings that hope to persuade the faithful to believe God had no idea what he was doing when he wrote our names in the Lamb's Book of Life, so as to later, as you believe, need to 'erase' them. That deplores sovereignty and omniscience. And that is man, not God's teaching.

 

 

[Heleadethme]

2 minutes ago, Davida said:

There is no salvation for angels. 

No......and it is for this very same reason that once having tasted the heavenly gift and powers of heaven that neither we nor they can be restored.

[TickledPinkinChristWoot!]

7 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

Those angels fell......of their own accord.  No one could snatch them and no one did, yet they fell.......again of their own accord.  Same with believers.....no one can snatch us out of the Lord's hand.....but we can also fall of our own accord.......see the difference?   Free will is the reason.  There are warnings all over scripture against falling away, sister......we have to look at the whole counsel of God, He didn't warn for nothing.  Even the Israelites of old who angered the Lord and fell away......was written for our ensample and warning.

2Peter 2.