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[missmuffet]

17 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

For the young whipper snappers not of my generation, this is Moe.

 

Do you think the young people are what they were when we were young? I don't see it.

[simplejeff]

7 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Do you think the young people are what they were when we were young? I don't see it.

According to Ephesians 2, and Revelation,  they haven't changed (not young, nor old).

[missmuffet]

6 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

According to Ephesians 2, and Revelation,  they haven't changed (not young, nor old).

I beg to differ on that.

[simplejeff]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I beg to differ on that.

Yes,  go ahead.  It is written, and cannot be changed,  but you are allowed here to differ.

[Dennis1209]

9 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Do you think the young people are what they were when we were young? I don't see it.

I'm not including everyone, but no I don't. Since the advent of forced removal of prayer from the classroom, Roe vs. Wade, liberalism, humanism, and the government taking control of our educational system. Things have exponentially changed for the worse.

Children are not allowed to be children anymore. Can't play cowboys and Indians, any act of perceived bullying is met with political correct discipline or expulsion. Kid's today are given everything and growing up with the entitlement mentality. Kid's today are 'face planted' in their iphones, xboxes and computers and not outside playing and developing normal healthy relationships and play. I'd better stop here because I could go on and on...

[missmuffet]

Just now, Dennis1209 said:

I'm not including everyone, but no I don't. Since the advent of forced removal of prayer from the classroom, Roe vs. Wade, liberalism, humanism, and the government taking control of our educational system. Things have exponentially changed for the worse.

Children are not allowed to be children anymore. Can't play cowboys and Indians, any act of perceived bullying is met with political correct discipline or expulsion. Kid's today are given everything and growing up with the entitlement mentality. Kid's today are 'face planted' in their iphones, xboxes and computers and not outside playing and developing normal healthy relationships and play. I'd better stop here because I could go on and on...

It is a different world than the world we grew up in Dennis.

[simplejeff]

God and God's Word never changed.

Worthy Christian Library » C.H. Spurgeon » All of Grace » Chapter 13: Regeneration and the Holy Spirit

"Chapter 13: Regeneration and the Holy Spirit

“Ye must be born again.” This word of our Lord Jesus has appeared to flame in the way of many, like the drawn sword of the cherub at the gate of Paradise. They have despaired, because this change is beyond their utmost effort. The new birth is from above, and therefore it is not in the creature’s power. Now, it is far from my mind to deny, or ever to conceal, a truth in order to create a false comfort. I freely admit that the new birth is supernatural, and that it cannot be wrought by the sinner’s own self. It would be a poor help to my reader if I were wicked enough to try to cheer him by persuading him to reject or forget what is unquestionably true.

But is it not remarkable that the very chapter in which our Lord makes this sweeping declaration also contains the most explicit statement as to salvation by faith? Read the third chapter of John’s Gospel and do not dwell alone upon its earlier sentences. It is true that the third verse says:

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

 

[simplejeff]

... (cont.) ....

"

But, then, the fourteenth and fifteenth verses speak:

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The eighteenth verse repeats the same doctrine in the broadest terms:

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

It is clear to every reader that these two statements must agree, since they came from the same lips, and are recorded on the same inspired page. Why should we make a difficulty where there can be none? If one statement assures us of the necessity to salvation of a something, which only God can give, and if another assures us that the Lord will save us upon our believing in Jesus, then we may safely conclude that the Lord will give to those who believe all that is declared to be necessary to salvation. The Lord does, in fact, produce the new birth in all who believe in Jesus; and their believing is the surest evidence that they are born again.

We trust in Jesus for what we cannot do ourselves: if it were in our own power, what need of looking to Him? It is ours to believe, it is the Lord’s to create us anew. He will not believe for us, neither are we to do regenerating work for Him. It is enough for us to obey the gracious command; it is for the Lord to work the new birth in us. He who could go so far as to die on the cross for us, can and will give us all things that are needful for our eternal safety."

[Dennis1209]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

It is a different world than the world we grew up in Dennis.

Yeah, especially in the last 50 years or so speaking of America. Not sure about the rest of the world.

Seeing everything that has happened in my lifetime, in particular the last ten years or so, and the speed in which all this is occurring. If the Lord tarries, I'm wondering how bad it will be in just five more years? Just look at our government the way they're behaving and the destruction and split that's occurred, they are out of control. People have no respect for the law anymore much less common civility and drug usage is epidemic, with the means to support their addictions being criminal. 

To top that off, the wife tells me that Oprah Windfrey is considering running for president? I do believe if she does it would be a landslide victory based on her popularity. 

See missmuffet, you wound me up tighter than a eight day clock 

[simplejeff]

6 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Yeah, especially in the last 50 years or so speaking of America. Not sure about the rest of the world.

Seeing everything that has happened in my lifetime, in particular the last ten years or so, and the speed in which all this is occurring.

Do you have any evidence to prove that more people, young or old, were born again saved and set apart by YHWH for Himself 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 or 100 or 1000 years ago than today ?

Or that the young people decades ago are still saved , and have not fallen and gone the way of the world,  having been separated from the vine ?