Roseanne Show

[Dennis1209]

13 hours ago, other one said:

if you had been here in the 1920's you would not say that this is the new norm.....   runs in cycles and we are on the upswing of the dark side......     other than technology none of this is really new.

 

Well Duh? I know a tad about history, where we currently stand as a nation; biblical, secular and historically. Yes, I say this is the new national norm for our generation and cycle as a once great nation. The following are a couple of quotes from an article I wrote about the subject matter a long time ago. Even an ignoramus like me, sees the handwriting on the wall to paraphrase.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – George Santayana.

Like most organisms, nations also have a life cycle. The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations has been about two hundred years. All nations have followed a cycle: (1) The life cycle of nations from bondage to spiritual faith. (2) From spiritual faith to great courage. (3) From courage to liberty. (4) From liberty to abundance. (5) From abundance to complacency. (6) From complacency to apathy. (7) From apathy to dependency. (8) From dependency back again into bondage.1 1Alexander Tyler, 1750. Where do you suppose the United States of America is today, number eight maybe? 

1. The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home as the basis for human society.1

2. Higher and higher taxes and the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

3. The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

4. The building of great armaments when the real enemy was within: the decay of individual responsibility.

5. The decay of religion; faith fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.

1Edward Gibbon, in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1788

There's nothing new under the sun. ~ King Solomon

Edited April 3, 2018 by Dennis1209

[Guest Butero]

5 minutes ago, Abby-Joy said:

Yes, I do ...even after all his failures (way past) I do have a lot of respect for a man who still preaches Jesus Christ and Him crucified...at least he knows he can't earn his way in, and it's only by the blood of Jesus anyone makes it!  I also really love their singing! 

I used to love watching House Hunters on HGTV but they seem to bring in a lot of homosexual couples and also people just living together. So it's not my favorite any more. I mostly watch a show called "Fixer Uppers" and another one calles "Home Town." 

I have never been condemning of Jimmy Swaggart.  The gifts and callings of God are without repentance, and he did publically confess he did wrong and has tried to move forward.  His network continues to grow.  I doubt it will ever be as big as it once was, but it is available worldwide on the internet, on Roku and on many over the air television stations.  I like their singing too.  

[other one]

3 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well Duh? I know a tad about history, where we currently stand as a nation; biblical, secular and historically. Yes, I say this is the new national norm for our generation and cycle as a once great nation. The following are a couple of quotes from an article I wrote about the subject matter a long time ago. Even an ignoramus like me, sees the handwriting on the wall to paraphrase.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” – George Santayana.

Like most organisms, nations also have a life cycle. The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations has been about two hundred years. All nations have followed a cycle: (1) The life cycle of nations from bondage to spiritual faith. (2) From spiritual faith to great courage. (3) From courage to liberty. (4) From liberty to abundance. (5) From abundance to complacency. (6) From complacency to apathy. (7) From apathy to dependency. (8) From dependency back again into bondage.1 Where do you suppose the United States of America is today, number eight maybe? 1Alexander Tyler, 1750

1. The undermining of the dignity and sanctity of the home as the basis for human society.1

2. Higher and higher taxes and the spending of public money for free bread and circuses for the populace.

3. The mad craze for pleasure; sports becoming every year more exciting, more brutal, more immoral.

4. The building of great armaments when the real enemy was within: the decay of individual responsibility.

5. The decay of religion; faith fading into mere form, losing touch with life, losing power to guide the people.

1Edward Gibbon, in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1788

There's nothing new under the sun. ~ King Solomon

all happened in the 20's but was reset in the 30's that brought about  much of a spiritual reset for 40 years....      I would say we are at a crossroads to do a reset again or crash.....    I also don't believe the MSM in truly representing our whole society....   we don't trust them to tell us about politics so why should we trust them to tell us about our societal health since they are the tool to try and destroy it.....            We've traveled all over the country for the last 9 years meeting thousands of people and I don't see the general public as what the MSM tells us they are.   Minorities are being touted as the norm of the country and I have not experienced that in dealing with the general public in the past 9 years, and in my work for a couple of decades prior to that.      I just don't believe that the majority of the nation has gone to hell spiritually, we just constantly hear about those in the minority that have.

 

[other one]

8 minutes ago, Butero said:

I have never been condemning of Jimmy Swaggart.  The gifts and callings of God are without repentance, and he did publically confess he did wrong and has tried to move forward.  His network continues to grow.  I doubt it will ever be as big as it once was, but it is available worldwide on the internet, on Roku and on many over the air television stations.  I like their singing too.  

as the old saying goes, "But for the grace of God there go I."      How many people have fallen for the same thing that Jimmy failed over and have kept it in secret...    I agree that I have not condemned him.

[Dennis1209]

4 minutes ago, other one said:

all happened in the 20's but was reset in the 30's that brought about  much of a spiritual reset for 40 years....      I would say we are at a crossroads to do a reset again or crash.....    I also don't believe the MSM in truly representing our whole society....   we don't trust them to tell us about politics so why should we trust them to tell us about our societal health since they are the tool to try and destroy it.....            We've traveled all over the country for the last 9 years meeting thousands of people and I don't see the general public as what the MSM tells us they are.   Minorities are being touted as the norm of the country and I have not experienced that in dealing with the general public in the past 9 years, and in my work for a couple of decades prior to that.      I just don't believe that the majority of the nation has gone to hell spiritually, we just constantly hear about those in the minority that have.

 

Well, we all know how polls and census's can be altered, skewed and manipulated to a desired outcome. But, I've seen a couple of statistics that say only 17% of professing Christians believe the Bible is inerrant and infallible. That it says what it means and means what it says. 

I hear all of major media outlets, I.E. MSN, CNN, Yahoo News, etc., are controlled and owned by six individuals, all liberal and socialist. No one can argue the fact (I'd love to debate this one) that journalism and reporting news and events is no longer objective, fair, accurate or facts. It's turned entirely into opinion shaping and propaganda for a desired political and moral outcome. 

Personally, I don't see a reset or repentance coming to America, or the world for that matter. I see the righteous judgment of God coming soon.

[Dennis1209]

3 minutes ago, Abby-Joy said:

Awesome! I agree. 

What's y'alls opinion of Jim Bakker? 

I watch his show on Youtube from time to time when he has a guest on there I follow. 

[Dennis1209]

7 minutes ago, Abby-Joy said:

He definitely has some interesting topics on his show but I don't care too much to watch him. I haven't watched one of his programs all the way through without feeling the need to flip the channel. I kinda cringe just thinking about it ...not sure why. (sorry) 

I hear ya...

I'm by no means passing judgment or bashing him or his mistakes. But, I'm uneasy listening to him. Perhaps it's fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me? But like you said, he does on occasion have interesting guests and topics on his program.

I just realized, I'm off topic. Sorry everyone. 

[other one]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well, we all know how polls and census's can be altered, skewed and manipulated to a desired outcome. But, I've seen a couple of statistics that say only 17% of professing Christians believe the Bible is inerrant and infallible. That it says what it means and means what it says. 

I hear all of major media outlets, I.E. MSN, CNN, Yahoo News, etc., are controlled and owned by six individuals, all liberal and socialist. No one can argue the fact (I'd love to debate this one) that journalism and reporting news and events is no longer objective, fair, accurate or facts. It's turned entirely into opinion shaping and propaganda for a desired political and moral outcome. 

Personally, I don't see a reset or repentance coming to America, or the world for that matter. I see the righteous judgment of God coming soon.

you don't have to believe that the Bible is inerrant and infallible to be a good Christian....      I would not care to get into it here, but you would have to decide which Bible is inerrant for they do not all say the same thing, and none of the English Translations actually carry through what the Greek is saying to the point of being inerrant....      When Jesus quotes the old Testament he is actually quoting the Septuagint old Testament 90% of the time and I know very few people, Christian or not, that have even read that.....   But the overall theme of what the Bible is putting out is what people need to understand and believe and there are many more than 17% that fall into that category.

If you believe that the Bible is totally inerrant and infallible you must be a flat earther for the People I know personally who have serious educations in Hebrew and Greek along with comparative languages will tell you that the Bible really does present a flat earth....    I'd recommend reading several of Michael Hiser's books for the details....

 

My Brother and sister both have become unbelievers for they turned from believing because they had been taught the Bible we have is totally inerrant and you must believe that to be saved....   and out of the  50 different translations I personally have access to, none of them are inerrant comparatively.....    and that's one of my buttons because it is very personal in my family.