Pope Francis cancels the Bible

[createdequal]

On 8/19/2019 at 4:27 PM, HAZARD said:

I don't believe in OSAS, never have and never will.

Difference here is that Luther was only one man, the Popes were many over the years.

huh?

I will just focus on this Luther was a man thing

yes he was

But it was Jesus who established the Christian CHURCH and Jesus is GOD ("If you have seen Me you have seen the Father.." etc)

There was only ONE Christian Church in the world..  until 1521 when Luther broke away and started his own "church" so called

then other "men" broke from him and there were 1000s of other breakaways and so today we have more than 65,000 different denominations, all differing in their teachings and practices.

But God is not the author of  confusion

or chaos

we know who is, don't we? The one also called Father of all lies

The Catholic Church is not waht it should be (the human side of it, that is) but it is still and always will be the Church Christ founded.. That does not change just because man is sinful, whether Catholic or non-Catholic

Edited August 21, 2019 by createdequal
clarity

[HAZARD]

1 hour ago, createdequal said:

huh?

I will just focus on this Luther was a man thing

yes he was

But it was Jesus who established the Christian CHURCH and Jesus is GOD ("If you have seen Me you have seen the Father.." etc)

There was only ONE Christian Church in the world..  until 1521 when Luther broke away and started his own "church" so called

then other "men" broke from him and there were 1000s of other breakaways and so today we have more than 65,000 different denominations, all differing in their teachings and practices.

But God is not the author of  confusion

or chaos

we know who is, don't we? The one also called Father of all lies

The Catholic Church is not waht it should be (the human side of it, that is) but it is still and always will be the Church Christ founded.. That does not change just because man is sinful, whether Catholic or non-Catholic

I still don't believe in once saved always saved. The Catholic church has nothing to do with the church Jesus Christ founded. 

 Jesus Christs church is not a building or a particular religious group with some special name?  The new Testament Church, of which Jesus Christ is the head is a called out body of people of all nations who have been born again and who have lived a true Christian life and died in the faith. It also includes all those who are alive in Christ today. This present church is called the "ekklesia" of the New Testament times, called out of this world to evangelize the world in this age.

The church, in its largest signification is the whole company of redeemed in all ages, in Heaven and in Earth (Eph. 3:1-11; Heb. 12:23). It is the spiritual people who have been made members of the universal family of God. The church in this sense is the body of Christ, and it does not consist of saved and unsaved. It is not a group of individuals associated together for social and benevolent purposes, as seems to be on every hand in most worldly church gatherings. It is the body of people indwelt by God through the Holy Spirit and through whom God works in the world.

 

The new Testament Church, of which Jesus Christ is the head is a called out body of people of all nations who have been born again and who have lived a true Christian life and died in the faith. It also includes all those who are alive in Christ today. This present church is called the "ekklesia" of the New Testament times, called out of this world to evangelize the world in this age.

The church, in its largest signification is the whole company of redeemed in all ages, in Heaven and in Earth (Eph. 3:1-11; Heb. 12:23). It is the spiritual people who have been made members of the universal family of God. The church in this sense is the body of Christ, and it does not consist of saved and unsaved. It is not a group of individuals associated together for social and benevolent purposes, as seems to be on every hand in most worldly church gatherings. It is the body of people indwelt by God through the Holy Spirit and through whom God works in the world.

Not only is Christ the founder of the church but he is also the foundation of the church. In that same statement to Simon Peter cited earlier Christ said, "Upon this rock I will build my church" (Matt. 16:18). What was or is the rock on which the church of Christ is established? It is the bed-rock foundation fact that Peter had just acknowledged -- namely, that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God. In Matthew 16:16 Peter said to Jesus, "Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God." Following this statement Jesus said that upon this rock he would build his church. The rock was not the apostle Peter or any other man; rather it was Christ and his divine relationship to God- the fact that he is God's Son. The apostle Paul makes this abundantly clear when he states, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1 Corinthians 3:11).

Any church built on a NAME or some special religious doctrine or some form of church government led by a man or men is built on the wrong foundation and will not stand. The church our Lord established is built on him - on the fact that he is God's Son. That is why every person who becomes a member of His church must confess his faith in Christ as the Son of God (Acts 8:37). Christs church is said to be a spiritual house made up of lively or living stones.

Before a person can be placed on Christ the foundation and made a stone in that house he must believe that Jesus is the Son of God (1 Peter 2:5,6). He must not bow down before statues, skull of dead men, pay to the dead and other such pagan traditions.

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the very first line of the Article if anyone read the link  "There is news, not real but so funny.