Thoughts on the zero tolerance policy and what it is doing to children

[Henry_iain]

i'm sorry but I can't keep quiet about this one. I have no problem with the border control issue and I wish the South African government would manage our borders as effectively. 

But that being said, this has nothing to do with race. The same laws count for everyone. Goodness me, I can't believe we are still hearing this. As someone living in a country where this kind of nonsense (separate but equal, except it never works that way) is still resulting in a divided nation, it is surprising to to still hear this being said.  

[Guest shiloh357]

3 minutes ago, Badjao33 said:

Even parents showing up at the checkpoints and taking the legal route have had their children taken from them in recent weeks. 
 

Not at points of entry.

 

[George]

1 minute ago, Davida said:

Did I misunderstand your point? I really question the idea  that "the message of the kingdom"  is causing the global mass migration.  The Global political elites/ the  UN  and Agenda 21 is doing that. The refuge crisis was instigated to cause turmoil, chaos and to export terrorism within the mass of migrants. No borders & flooding the USA with socialists, attacking nationalism, conservatism , and patriotism-the reason is they want a GLOBAL control. Global Rul & Controlling body can only come about if there are no national borders & if all countries have no cultural identity to cling to. 

The message of the Kingdom is to go forth to every nation.  What sweetpossum's point was -- is that everyone preaches its message to its own people.  Sorry... if that was the situation ... the gospel would have never gone forth -- because the message of the Kingdom was to Jews ONLY .. and later spread to the nations.  Most of the expansion of the gospel to the nations of the world ... took place by missionaries going and leaving all they had behind.  So the message of the Kingdom is to go to the highways and byways ... to reach the entire world with the gospel.  To intermingle the Kingdom of this failed world - Babylon -- and twist it to fit a narrative that we shouldn't share the gospel except to our ethnic groups -- is the opposite of the message of the Kingdom!   That's my point!

[secretopossumcabal]

10 minutes ago, IainL said:

i'm sorry but I can't keep quiet about this one. I have no problem with the border control issue and I wish the South African government would manage our borders as effectively. 

But that being said, this has nothing to do with race. The same laws count for everyone. Goodness me, I can't believe we are still hearing this. As someone living in a country where this kind of nonsense (separate but equal, except it never works that way) is still resulting in a divided nation, it is surprising to to still hear this being said.  

The dead don't have ears to hear, what good is the gospel when there is too much chaos for you to hear it? To make it hard for people to enter the kingdom Satan destroys borders and sets people at odds with each other, therefor we should do the opposite and enforce borders, as he see's the value in preaching diversity as a virtue when it is anything but.    

Also, South Africa is a good example of how much race and borders matters:

The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

There's also the massive amount of farm attacks against white farmers that occur in that country. Satan is pretty much using SA as a model for the destruction of western civilization, non-stop demographic replacement. Constantly accuse whites of racism to make them sympathetic to their replacement, thereby fulfilling the liberal hegemony he is so close to achieving.

I mean for pete's sake electrified fences are the norm over there. People need only look at SA for things to come.    

[Guest shiloh357]

17 minutes ago, Badjao33 said:

That's true, but it has been happening, and when other families coming to the border hear stories like this, it increases the chances that they will make an attempt to cross the border illegally. 

And that will result in their children being taken and detained.  I guess if they really cared about their children they would not put them in that situation knowing they will be caught and what the consequences will be. 

This isn't' about children.  It is about people wanting to take advantage of a our broken immigration system and trying to skirt around our laws so that they can live off of the American tax payer.   

It's like laws don't matter anymore, the right of a nation to decide who gets to come in doesn't matter anymore. National sovereignty doesn't matter anymore and for some reason there is an assumption that the US is under some obligation to take EVERYONE who comes across our borders and if we don't than we are evil and unchristian.

Society has become nothing but a bunch of liberal whiny SJ cry babies

[secretopossumcabal]

28 minutes ago, George said:

The message of the Kingdom is to go forth to every nation.  What sweetpossum's point was -- is that everyone preaches its message to its own people.  Sorry... if that was the situation ... the gospel would have never gone forth -- because the message of the Kingdom was to Jews ONLY .. and later spread to the nations.  Most of the expansion of the gospel to the nations of the world ... took place by missionaries going and leaving all they had behind.  So the message of the Kingdom is to go to the highways and byways ... to reach the entire world with the gospel.  To intermingle the Kingdom of this failed world - Babylon -- and twist it to fit a narrative that we shouldn't share the gospel except to our ethnic groups -- is the opposite of the message of the Kingdom!   That's my point!

Apostles being sent to preach to the nations isn't the same as non-stop immigration. The bible tells us to treat the alien with compassion, but the alien isn't there to demographically replace the Israelites, otherwise God would have burned against Israel (See the scriptures I previously quoted). Even Solomon made the mistake of marrying foreign wives which taught him their Pagan ways, which angered God greatly as to punish Israel once more.

Babel was a failed world, so we shouldn't repeat their same mistakes in the intermingling of the nations. It's ONLY through Christ that humans can be united in any meaningful way, this doesn't mean the destruction of borders but the preservation of them, our bodies failed, but Christ's perfect body succeeds, therefor unity doesn't come through us, but through him.   

For instance if we mix all colors together then we can no longer have any vibrancy and colors in our paintings..., of if a word meant everything then it would mean nothing and an author would no longer be able to employ them. In all of this you can see why God values borders and why The Creature HATES borders.   

 

 

Edited June 20, 2018 by secretopossumcabal
I said Babylon instead of Babel

[Henry_iain]

2 minutes ago, secretopossumcabal said:

The dead don't have ears to hear, what good is the gospel when there is too much chaos for you to hear it? To make it hard for people to enter the kingdom Satan destroys borders and sets people at odds with each other, therefor we should do the opposite and enforce borders, as he see's the value in preaching diversity as a virtue when it is anything but.    

Also, South Africa is a good example of how much race and borders matters:

The "Hitler Of South Africa" Tells White People, He Won't Kill Them...Yet!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/hitler-south-africa-tells-white-people-he-wont-kill-themyet

There's also the massive amount of farm attacks against white farmers that occur in that country. Satan is pretty much using SA as a model for the destruction of western civilization, non-stop demographic replacement. Constantly accuse whites of racism to make them sympathetic to their replacement, thereby fulfilling the liberal hegemony he is so close to achieving.

I mean for pete's sake electrified fences are the norm over there. People need only look at SA for things to come.    

Absolute nonsense. Do you live here? Or do you just repeat what the media tells you? What you seem to forget is that the Apartheid murdered thousands more Africans. I grant you that crime is a problem but not everywhere. I dare you come to my neighbourhood and count the number of electrified fences you see.  You do realise that the Apartheid system basically caused everything that you are seeing today. It made Africans and Coloured people poor. They were not allowed to have a decent education let alone decent jobs (i recently studied the history of education in South Africa. Did you know that Hendrik Verwoerd, who engineered Apartheid was not a Christian?)  The majority of the people were basically forced to live in small areas. They were forcibly removed from areas where they had lived for generations. 

 

The problems in South Africa are complex. But one cause we cab definitely rule out, is that it has nothing to do with mixing races 

I grant you that Zuma was a bad president but I quite like Ramaphosa. And no i'm not liberal. 

 

I'm white btw. I sometimes wish I could change the colour of my skin. 

[Henry_iain]

There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the farm killings i n south africa aree caused by mixing races. if you want to look to a likely cause, look towards massive inequality which in turn was caused by an unjust system

[George]

I was asked by the author of the thread to close this topic as it's veered off course.