Do You Really Love The Sinner Hate The Sin

[Guest 1sheep]

5 minutes ago, Badjao33 said:

I'm straight forward, I use a lot of scripture, and my posts aren't contradictory, so when you claim I'm being disingenuous and use lots of double talk, I am a bit surprised by this charge. Since you are the accuser, shouldn't you be the one who provides some evidence when it is asked of you? 

You may claim to be straight forward and you may  claim to be using scripture but that is only a claim. 

Your claim isnt consistent with biblical truth imho. 

Ive been watching you since you joined. 

You have alot of wrong thinking about things. I dont think you are surprised at all at what I said. You already know you go against the grain here in many areas. Why would one more observation surprise you?

No. Im not going to ablige you with examples. Recount all the endless dissagreements on here and there are your examples. I will say one thing as a response to this thread and something you said about the baptist missionaries. 

How do you know that their method isnt working? You cant preach grace and the propitiation without preaching mans being dead in their sins and the consequences . I wonder how you know if it worked or not? Are you able to see into a persons heart? Does the Holy Spirit move in your time or his? 

Did Christ tell the resistant to repent for the kingdom of God is near? 

 

 

[Guest 1sheep]

13 minutes ago, Badjao33 said:

Does that mean we should make public charges against someone just because we have different opinions?

I was really surprised. And how do you know what I post goes against the grain of the majority of people here? There are only about a dozen members if that participating in this thread out of thousands. 

Is it Biblical to make a public claim against someone without providing evidence?

You say you have been watching me since I joined, so why didn't you respond this way to all those who have said that my ministry is a failure because I have no fruit to show or that I should abandon my ministry all together? There have been dozens of times that this has been said on this forum.

I do agree with you though, we do not know what's going on behind the scenes. 

 

Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel and the prophets in the Old Testament foretold that Israel must repent to be saved. This is why repentance was part of the gospel message to the Jews.

Did Paul tell the resistant gentiles to repent for the kingdom of God is near? 

You still propping up the false claim of two gospels? 

Lol

Look at Acts. Specifically all if it! 

Lots of calls to repent.

[Guest 1sheep]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

The Holy Spirit is always aware.  I can more imagine someone in the similar situation would be looking more for God's love , safety and protection rather then needing at that point to feel the conviction of their sin. 

Until one understands what sin is ie rebellion against a Holy God; they cannot recognize the truth in why the atonement took place. 

Salvation and godly sorrow of our sins go hand in hand. 

2 Corinth 7:10..For godly sorrow works repentance to salvation .....

1 hour ago, Badjao33 said:

I told you I was consistent  

Yes there are calls to repent from the original disciples who were initially told to go only to the Jews.

 Christ has become a servant to the circumcision on behalf of the truth of God to confirm the promises given to the fathers (Romans 15:8)

 I (Paul) had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been to the circumcised (Galatians 2:7)

Paul mentions repentance one time in acts, but he is not talking about repentance from sins. 

look at 2Corinth 7:10..... 

 

[Willa]

My two best childhood friends are liberals.  The one who is a Christians gets very bitter sounding when she speaks of "Trumpers".  So I avoid talking about politics with her.  The other thinks she is a Christian but she is deceived.  She cannot call Jesus "Lord" and she prays to her dead parents for help instead of to God.  My heart breaks for her.  Yes I do continue to love both.  

[Guest 1sheep]

7 minutes ago, Davida said:

I agree.  It's the order the song Amazing grace speaks of too.  

 'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved.
How precious did that grace appear"
The hour I first believed.

You are right! I never tire of that song.btw

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, Davida said:

There have never been two Gospels.  

SPOT ON SISTER . 

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, 1sheep said:

I agree with you. I think Shiloh has the patience of Job. For striving with him day in and day out. He is talking to someone I perceive as disingenuous. Lots of double talk in other words.

 

Btw just so you and others are aware: I have been following this site for years. I feel like I know many here.

That is so odd you would say that .    I really feel like I know you too one sheep .  YOU LOVED one sheep .   

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, Badjao33 said:

I'm straight forward, I use a lot of scripture, and my posts aren't contradictory, so when you claim I'm being disingenuous and use lots of double talk, I am a bit surprised by this charge. Since you are the accuser, shouldn't you be the one who provides some evidence when it is asked of you? 

Since you are the accuser, shouldn't you be the one who provides some evidence when it is asked of you?

TRY telling that to the liberal press ,    they roasted JUDGE K alive and played victim card with his accuser , even said HE should offer up an investigation and so on .

No worries I aint political.   BUT GOOD NIGHT this country is divided and a kingdom divided..................anyone want to fill in that blank

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

I had a radical left old friend that I hadn't seen since becoming a Christian.  We visited them after returning from Israel. They insisted that Israel had no right to it's land and that the Bible & Christianity was just a violent world religion. I explained about the historic context of the O.T. and explained the N.T. contained the good news and tried to explain about the significance of Jesus Christ's birth....and she said the bible was a matter of individual interpretation- I said no, that would be a wrong misunderstanding & a misrepresentation of the Bible scripture.I would not agree with her & she exploded in a rage. They ended the friendship because I chose God, Jesus and the word of God over my relationship with them because I would not side with their intellect as being right. I was shocked but not shocked as it was an over the top vicious angry reaction, I saw this was a show down between darkness and light and the devil caused her have a wild angry fit of rage. It was so ridiculously out of proportion, that at first we thought this person was joking.  It seemed my born again Christian status must have posed a spiritual threat to the hold the devil had upon her. I have no regrets , I chose Jesus first and foremost. 

 

How true it was when Jesus said that He came “ bearing a sword”. Nothing can divide like a sword......or the Word of Truth

[Guest shiloh357]

5 hours ago, Davida said:

There have never been two Gospels.  

Exactly.   This notion that there was a "gospel to Israel"  and  a "gospel for the world."  is not something the Bible teaches.  It is false teaching and those wh promote that demonstrate a fundamental lack of theological understanding.